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Re: Non-British aircraft

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Sorry- now I'm confused. The Max Landing weight is 43227kg.

Where does FSA generate it from? I landed with the load of pax and cargo FSA suggested, plus fuel reserves (Alt, holding etc)

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I am pretty sure that for boeing/douglas aircraft they use the Boeing airport planning docs you can find here.

https://www.boeing.com/commercial/airpo ... nuals.page

I just compared it myself and the FSA database looks like it matches, the MLW for the -15 is 41,141 kg, its the -21 that has a MLW of 43,227 kg
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I got the 87 BM timetable yesterday, and it includes equipment! Here are the tentative routes I found in it.

Known routes:

from to depart arrive
Heathrow Amsterdam 755 955
Amsterdam Heathrow 1030 1030
Heathrow Belfast 1130 1240
Belfast Heathrow 1330 1435
Heathrow Edinburgh 900 1010
Edinburgh Heathrow 1040 1150
Heathrow Glasgow 1510 1620
Glasgow Heathrow 1710 1820
Heathrow Leeds 1425 1540
Leeds Heathrow 1545 1635
Heathrow Teeside 1725 1820
Teeside Heathrow 1850 1945
East Midlands Glasgow 730 825
Glasgow East Midlands 855 950
Glasgow Jersey 855 1215
Jersey Guernsey 1310 1340
Guernsey Jersey 1410 1425
Jersey Glasgow 1455 1755

Possible Routes: These routes are ones where it is marked as 'Equipment Varies', they used a F27 or Viscount and DC9's were known to operate from one of the airports.

East Midlands Belfast 1355 1515
Belfast East Midlands 1545 1700
East Midlands Amsterdam 1730 2000
Amsterdam East Midlands 2030 2100
East Midlands Paris 1130 1410
Paris East Midlands 1520 1600
East Midlands Jersey 1100 1215
Jersey East Midlands 1455 1620
Belfast Jersey 900 1215
Jersey Belfast 1455 1825
Heathrow East Midlands 1220 1310
East Midlands Heathrow 1335 1625

I have not included any routes to Bergen, Brussels or Dublin, which we have currently listed, but I see in our current routes where have them setup, should I include some? I see routes in the 1995 TT and could add them based on that.

Edit: We should probably connect East Midlands to Heathrow since it has 1 known and 4 possible routes, in the TT that route was served by the SH360
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Let's go for as many routes as we can reasonably assume the Dc9 flew during its bm lifetime
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Dale, I agree, I found photo evidence of BMI DC-9's at Brussels, Frankfurt and Palma de Mallorca and will add routes from the 95 TT. for those. I also found photo's from Helsinki and Faro Portugal but have no route info for that so will hold off on those. That gives us 42 regular routes.
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Joe - the DC9-30s were definitely used on LHR - Liverpool EGGP and return in the mid 1980s to late 80s / ?early 1990s as I travelled on them many times in that era. They took over the route from Cambrian 1-11s , and later it passed back to Manx who used Saab 340s and later ATPs
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cstorey wrote: 31 Jan 2020, 11:47 Joe - the DC9-30s were definitely used on LHR - Liverpool EGGP and return in the mid 1980s to late 80s / ?early 1990s as I travelled on them many times in that era. They took over the route from Cambrian 1-11s , and later it passed back to Manx who used Saab 340s and later ATPs
In the two time tables I have access to (1985 and 1995) I did not see Liverpool routes, I would have to add a one off route EGLL<->EGGP if there were more connections from liverpool. Its like Helsinki and Faro, I know from online photo's that BMA DC-9's where there, I just don't have any other route info on them. I'm hoping a 1990 TT shows up on ebay (for a price I am willing to pay) in the next few weeks so we can get some more range of their routes.
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I got my hands on a 1991 timetable, that does show equipment used on the route, so based on that information I have added routes between

Heathrow Dublin
Dublin Heathrow
Heathrow Nice
Nice Heathrow
Heathrow Paris
Paris Heathrow
Heathrow Liverpool
Liverpool Heathrow
Belfast Amsterdam
Amsterdam Belfast
Belfast Paris
Paris Belfast
Edinburgh Paris
Paris Edinburgh
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Re: Non-British aircraft

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Talking of routes I went to look for the flights in the Trslander and Islander to Broadford and they have disappeared. Don't know where?
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Re: Non-British aircraft

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Hi Simon
Both routes are showing in FSA although there are no Trilanders in Glasgow. Strangely the routes don't show in CBFS although that's not unusual until they are actually flown :dunno: and EGIE is not seen as a valid airport 8) Have you tried booking a flight in an Islander from Glasgow to Broadford(Ashaig) just to see what happens ?
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