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jonesey2k wrote:Whoa! They are fab! Bargain price too!

I prefer the interior of Echo-Echo. :smile:


Repaints anybody? I want some virtual VIP-111's :lol:
There are some done. :wink:

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One small problem...

..those aircraft don't appear to have props... :think:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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But why do they insist on calling it an airplane! :k:
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PeteP wrote:Very nice but I'd have thought that being restricted to a maximum of FL280 in a very large chunk of the world's airspace would be a little inhibiting.
PP
As in "not RVSM equipped" ?

I thought non-rvsm planes could go in rvsm airspace with flight plan prior approval from the relevant ATC centre?

Or has it (rvsm criteria) been changed again?

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Motormouse wrote:As in "not RVSM equipped" ?
Yep, spot-on, Pete
Motormouse wrote:I thought non-rvsm planes could go in rvsm airspace with flight plan prior approval from the relevant ATC centre?
That's correct in theory but in practice, it doesn't happen except in the most exceptional of circumstances or, maybe, in the middle of the night when there's not much else around.

If you think about it, you'll see that a non-RVSM aircraft actually occupies 3 flight levels instead of one. Take, for example, an non-RVSM flight at FL330 - because of the need to provide it with 2000ft separation, FLs 320 and 340 will also sterilised (unusable) within its vicinity and since it's moving, it acts just like a rolling roadblock. Any time there's anything opposite direction or on a crossing track at 320 or 340, we have to radar vector them clear or climb or descend them to provide the required separation. On a busy airways sector, this raises the workload to an unacceptably high level, especially for one aircraft!

We did try to accommodate non-RVSM traffic in the early days but these days, 90% of the time, the answer to a request for a non-RVSM compliant aircraft to enter RVSM airspace is "no".

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I want them!
Onwards and Upwards!!!!!!!!
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I saw them first Jetty.Back-Off :tuttut: :huf: .......lol

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Now now :tuttut:

One each :worried:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Bit strange that seller - if you look at his feedback comments from buyers, you can see what he usually sells :think:

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for example:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... gory=23845

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ianhind wrote:Bit strange that seller - if you look at his feedback comments from buyers, you can see what he usually sells :think:

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for example:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... gory=23845
I saw that. He's gone from baseball cards to 1-11's. How strange..! Image
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