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Re: Bitzer project

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So many lost searchers. :'(
Here's another clue:
It was Russian.

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Boom! That shook the dust from the rafters!
Now we have three correct answers. :Dance: :lol:
PeteP, Keith (Dev One), and Eric (Tomliner) all say it's a :-#
Now, let me see, two extra clues...that's silver, not to be sneezed at, especially if you're not wearing a mask. :-O

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Re: Bitzer project

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Airspeed wrote:
27 Jan 2021, 01:18
Well, there have been several suggestions that it's a Concordia.
Many of the shapes are very similar, but the Concordia had tricycle undercarriage, whilst this is a tail dragger.
The top view of the cockpit glazing also varies from the Concordia.
Those who have made other suggestions are, sadly, also off the mark.
It seems to have been an enduring overall look, ranging from the mid 30s through to the 50s.
Here's a clue. I obliterated the tail section, but now I'm going to show you the horizontal bits.
Yes, I'm a swine for hiding this, but you don't want them TOO easy, do you?
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Ok, something is not right, notice how in the new tail section, the back tips of the elevators extend past the end of the hull and the rudder, then notice in the original picture, how they end well before the end of the hull. Are you just trying to mess with us?
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Re: Bitzer project

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I agree with Joe, something not quite right with that tail.

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I would hazard a guess that the 3 view Mike has is an early recognition type of drawing, my researches found quite a few different drawings available. The other thing quite obvious is the projection of the wing & the root fairing at the fuselage.
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Not guilty, I'm not messing with you.
I don't mind being mean, but I wouldn't cheat.
All came from the same 3 view.
I can see what you mean about the fin/elevator/fuselage tip alignment.
Must have just been a slight inaccuracy by the original artist.
I'll check some other images on the web, and see if there's any variation.
THIS FROM INTERNET:
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Interest in this one has died, so without further ado, the subject was a Tupolev ANT-35.
The final list of correct answers:
PeteP, Keith (Dev One), Eric (Tomliner), Mick (woody901). Well done, lads, it was another tricky one.
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I will come back with the full 3 view from the book, plus another version from the net for comparison.
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Re: Bitzer project

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Arg! The visual similarity to the Viking had me blinded to the idea it might be Russian, it looked way to modern for me to look in that direction. Live and learn.
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Re: Bitzer project

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Hi Joe,
As I mentioned, it seemed to be a popular general shape from the 30s to the 50s. Not an easy one to get.
Here's a few snaps from the family album of another aircraft.
I have a feeling that I'm giving too much information, but that's to offset the poor resolution.
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Bottom left makes me think of a bikini malfunction.

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