'Hawker Hunter' crash in US.
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- Chris Trott
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Here's the info on the aircraft, a Hunter Mk.58A, one of 3 registered in the US -
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry ... ertxt=58MX
Sad loss on all counts.
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry ... ertxt=58MX
Sad loss on all counts.
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Here's a picture of the aircraft as it appeared prior to the crash -
http://www.air-and-space.com/20041031%2 ... de%20l.jpg
and what it looked like in 2003 and earlier -
http://www.air-and-space.com/20031018%2 ... ar%20l.jpg
http://www.air-and-space.com/20041031%2 ... de%20l.jpg
and what it looked like in 2003 and earlier -
http://www.air-and-space.com/20031018%2 ... ar%20l.jpg
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Sounds like a one way ticket to somewhere if you have a problem then if that's the case...airboatr wrote:Jonesey2k
one report I heard said that the Hawker
had no ejection seat because of the clasification
once the War birds are rated for civillian use the
seat has to come out.
I can't say if that is always true, maybe someone
else may have more imput.
Charlie
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The initial reports from people on scene in another forum was possible compressor stall on takeoff.
As for the ejection seat, unless he has the proper licenses, he has to deactivate the ejection seat as it's a Class 1 explosive and you must be licensed to handle and maintain them. Many insurance companies won't cover an aircraft with an active ejection seat becuase most of those with them are of the "cannon" type and not the "rocket" type which is considered to be an unreliable seat nowdays due to the need for constant maintenance and the fact that their performance isn't garunteed. Too many pilots were killed by those ejection seats for the insurance companies and the FAA to be comfortable with it.
I know that the F-4's that are in the civilian fleet, most of the T-38s, and several of the L-39s have active seats, but again, they're all in the hands of people who are properly certified to work on them themselves in addition to their mechanics, and they have some very expensive insurance (but since they do displays, they can afford it thankfully).
As for the ejection seat, unless he has the proper licenses, he has to deactivate the ejection seat as it's a Class 1 explosive and you must be licensed to handle and maintain them. Many insurance companies won't cover an aircraft with an active ejection seat becuase most of those with them are of the "cannon" type and not the "rocket" type which is considered to be an unreliable seat nowdays due to the need for constant maintenance and the fact that their performance isn't garunteed. Too many pilots were killed by those ejection seats for the insurance companies and the FAA to be comfortable with it.
I know that the F-4's that are in the civilian fleet, most of the T-38s, and several of the L-39s have active seats, but again, they're all in the hands of people who are properly certified to work on them themselves in addition to their mechanics, and they have some very expensive insurance (but since they do displays, they can afford it thankfully).