Fancy a cruise in the Med?

calypso · Post by **calypso** » 04 Jan 2007, 20:09

Flying in that weather must have been .. er interesting!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVoMtPFtEg0

Post by **DaveB** » 04 Jan 2007, 20:37

Oo-er.. :shock:

I've sailed through the Med when it's been like that and in all honesty, it's not a great deal of fun :huf: Fortunately, RN vessels are not (generally) as shallow keeled or as top heavy as your average luxury liner (though I'm sure that felt far from luxury for the folk onboard)

The skipper seems to be keeping it beam on which isn't helping either :shock:

Nice vid John.. even though I'm glad not to have been there at the time unless in that chopper

ATB

DaveB :tab:

Post by **TSR2** » 04 Jan 2007, 21:04

Another good reason to stick to wings. Thats a nightmare! :shock:

Post by **Garry Russell** » 04 Jan 2007, 21:07

Wonder why the helipcopter was there

If it was to pull someone off the ship that would be a bit tricky

Garry

Post by **DaveB** » 04 Jan 2007, 21:37

No.. SAR's are not nice things to be on as however uncomfortable you might be, you have to consider the poor sod in the water :sad:

Pity we have no background on the clip. It's difficult to imagine the helicopter just 'being there' as the last thing they'd want to be doing is flying in that sort of weather so I guess they were there for a reason. The ship is not doing particularly well and is rolling at some very scary angles though it is still underway.. the best plan as the last thing you want to be is DIW in that sort of sea :tuttut: I doubt a winching operation would have been viable even to the most skilled of crews. Getting onboard would be hazardous enough let alone trying to re-connect to pick up an injured party :shock:

ATB

DaveB :tab:

ianhind · Post by **ianhind** » 04 Jan 2007, 21:49

How about:

http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/2-14-2005-65759.asp

Seems to fit.

And the absence of engines explains why it was beam on.

Edit: more links - not all the pictures match up, but there looks to be several "Voyagers" out there so the sub-editor just grabs the convient one!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4263935.stm

http://cruise-chat.com/eve/forums/a/tpc ... 609/inc/-1

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/20 ... 303627.htm

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... i_n9534444

Post by **Garry Russell** » 04 Jan 2007, 21:51

Looks like it Ian

Certainly the ship seemed almost to be wallowing without headway

Thanks

Garry

petermcleland · Post by **petermcleland** » 04 Jan 2007, 21:51

DaveB wrote:Oo-er.. :shock:

I've sailed through the Med when it's been like that and in all honesty, it's not a great deal of fun :huf: Fortunately, RN vessels are not (generally) as shallow keeled or as top heavy as your average luxury liner (though I'm sure that felt far from luxury for the folk onboard) The skipper seems to be keeping it beam on which isn't helping either :shock:

Nice vid John.. even though I'm glad not to have been there at the time unless in that chopper

Dave,

I get the feeling that she was "Lying Ahull" with engine or propulsion failure and hence the presence of the chopper standing by. That would also explain her being "Beam On".

jonesey2k · Post by **jonesey2k** » 04 Jan 2007, 22:05

Wow, I dont think I would like to be on that cruise!
Allthough would have been fun standing at the bow when she goes over a big one!

Post by **DaveB** » 04 Jan 2007, 22:51

That first report Ian found seems about right. She is underway as I said earlier but one engine is not enough to give her steerage way.. hence why she's not able to keep pointy-end-on to the sea despite frantic efforts to do so. Not that a ships stabilizers will work particularly well in that sort of sea.. I doubt off one engine she'd have had enough power to keep them going though that's speculation as her generators may still be online.

I can say from experience that those poor holiday-makers would have feared for their lives.. purely by the amount of roll the ship was suffering. I was standing in the shower on one particular ship (albeit a small one and yes.. we did wash!!) when it started to go over in a heavy sea and I remember watching all the water pouring out of the sinks and thinking.. SH1T!! :shock: Seconds later, darkness and quiet (other than the beating from the sea) as we hit an angle sufficient to trip the main engines. Odd.. the next thing I thought of was that I didn't want to abandon ship with no clobber on!!

There are limits!!

Tks for finding the info on that clip. Most interesting

ATB

DaveB :tab: