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One For Brian....Fly Texas
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Garry Russell
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One For Brian....Fly Texas
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I was going to post something about this in the thread about the crane, someone mentioned the front wheels whent off the ground. But then I thought about making Brian feel bad so I didn't.
But I guess it's ok now. the pilot was "no big deal" about it.
Ha HA.
Wonder what happened, if anything, to the gear.
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Poor, Brian. You lot are horrid to him.
Speaking of calm pilots - you have to consider whether they've completely grasped the consequences! I'm not sure if I told the story of our 777 dropping the front axle and wheels of the triple axle starboard main gear off the edge of the tarmac? It was Heathrow and we were off to Almaty for a few days. I was the CSD and the Captain was on his first flight in command unsupervised. It was a summer evening and we were taxying out to the holding point at 27R and second to go. I'd strapped myself into the crew seat at door one left when the brakes came on hard and we stopped. The skipper phoned me to go to the flight deck for a briefing and turned round in his seat with his back to the windscreen to talk to me. The F/O meanwhile had his head down talking continuously on the radio to several different people so I was the only one looking forward out of the screen.
He explained calmly to me how an aircraft taxying towards us had warned that our gear was dropping off the edge but he'd stopped in time and that it was only a matter of sending out a tug to push us back a few feet and that then we'd be on our way. Meanwhile I could see a panorama of blue flashing lights along the perimeter road and taxiways and it slowly dawned on me that they were heading our way. And as he got to the bit about ... then we'll be on our way ... two huge foam tenders pulled up facing the nose. My response to him was 'I don't think so, sir' and he slowly turned around and that's when the consequences dawned on him
What the poor man didn't know was that the wheels had tilted off the tarmac enough to drop that big engine casing to within a couple of inches of a flashing runway light. And because the axle had dropped, pushing back on the nose wheel would have put too much strain on it.
They had to pump out the fuel, deplane all the passengers and freight but by then we'd checked into the Holiday Inn and were all in the garden of The Plough in Sipson drowning the Captain's sorrows! We made him buy the drinks, too!
Ian
Speaking of calm pilots - you have to consider whether they've completely grasped the consequences! I'm not sure if I told the story of our 777 dropping the front axle and wheels of the triple axle starboard main gear off the edge of the tarmac? It was Heathrow and we were off to Almaty for a few days. I was the CSD and the Captain was on his first flight in command unsupervised. It was a summer evening and we were taxying out to the holding point at 27R and second to go. I'd strapped myself into the crew seat at door one left when the brakes came on hard and we stopped. The skipper phoned me to go to the flight deck for a briefing and turned round in his seat with his back to the windscreen to talk to me. The F/O meanwhile had his head down talking continuously on the radio to several different people so I was the only one looking forward out of the screen.
He explained calmly to me how an aircraft taxying towards us had warned that our gear was dropping off the edge but he'd stopped in time and that it was only a matter of sending out a tug to push us back a few feet and that then we'd be on our way. Meanwhile I could see a panorama of blue flashing lights along the perimeter road and taxiways and it slowly dawned on me that they were heading our way. And as he got to the bit about ... then we'll be on our way ... two huge foam tenders pulled up facing the nose. My response to him was 'I don't think so, sir' and he slowly turned around and that's when the consequences dawned on him
What the poor man didn't know was that the wheels had tilted off the tarmac enough to drop that big engine casing to within a couple of inches of a flashing runway light. And because the axle had dropped, pushing back on the nose wheel would have put too much strain on it.
They had to pump out the fuel, deplane all the passengers and freight but by then we'd checked into the Holiday Inn and were all in the garden of The Plough in Sipson drowning the Captain's sorrows! We made him buy the drinks, too!
Ian
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Well at least I thought about hurting his feelings before doing so.speedbird591 wrote:Poor, Brian. You lot are horrid to him.
Ian
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Et tu, Garry? (pulling the knife out of my back) You even used a non-CBFS smiley! Ok, ya'll had your fun...ha ha. Of course Ben could have told you that 737's, as well as other pigs, love to play in the mud. Beats me what happened here to this poor bird. 
Brian
Ok, ya'll had your fun...ha ha. Of course Ben could have told you that 737's, as well as other pigs, love to play in the mud. Beats me what happened here to this poor bird. Brian
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Seriously...it seems it just one of those odd thing that sort of happen to all of us from time to time...the human element they try to remove from aeroplane driving but can't
Maybe
...Ben was there... busy on his master plan Garry
"In the world of virtual reality things are not always what they seem."
"In the world of virtual reality things are not always what they seem."
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Didn't 73's have a gravel and grass runway option in the brochure ? Maybe not mud 'tho .
Rgds dave in Daarset .
Rgds dave in Daarset .
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PS . For Ian , thought it was Mandatory for the skipper to buy 't drinks on his 1st trip in command ..... well that's wot they told me in Glasgow ! Just don't do it in Athens 'tho .
Rgds dave in Daarset .
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dfarrow wrote:PS . For Ian , thought it was Mandatory for the skipper to buy 't drinks on his 1st trip in command .....
In normal circumstances, yes, Dave. But this poor man had just been suspended without ever getting airborne and seriously wondered if he would still have a job. It was very brave of him to come out for a drink, let alone buy them, and then spend the evening apologising to us 
I saw him a few weeks later and the good news was that he had been completely exonerated. The enquiry decided that he'd been asked to perform an impossible manoeuvre for a 777. IIRC this is what happened. The yellow line shows where we were trying to go, the red circle shows where the wheel dropped off the tarmac and the blue circle is the flashing hold light that the engine cowling was almost resting on. The Airbus Captain that saved us from dropping off completely was at the holding point to the right.
Ian
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In the end Brian, it wasn't your feeling that were targeted. Or the pilots for that matter.