Asiana Crash Landing San Francisco
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You're all confused with this pilot non flying stuff so here is the word from an alleged BA instruction;
CONFUSION
"It appears some confusion exists over the new pilot role titles. This notice will hopefully clear up any misunderstandings.
"The titles Pilot-in-command, Commander, First Officer, Pilot Flying, Pilot-not-flying, P1, P2 and Co-Pilot will now cease to have any meaning, within the BA operations manuals. They are to be replaced by Handling Pilot, Non-Handling Pilot, Handling Landing Pilot, Non-Handling Landing Pilot, Handling Non-Landing Pilot, and Non-Handling Non-Landing Pilot.
"The Landing Pilot is initially the Handling Pilot and will handle the take-off and landing, except in role reversal when he is the Non-Handling Pilot for taxi, until the Handling Non-Landing Pilot hands the Handling to the Landing Pilot at eighty knots.
"The Non-Landing (Non-Handling, since the Landing Pilot is handling) Pilot reads the checklist to the Handling Pilot until after the Before Descent Checklist completion, when the Handling Landing Pilot hands the handling to the Non-Handling Non-Landing Pilot who then becomes the Handling Non-Landing Pilot.
"The Landing Pilot is the Non-Handling Pilot until the "decision altitude" call, when the Handling Non-Landing Pilot hands the handling to the Non-Handling Landing Pilot, unless the latter calls "go-around", in which case the Handling Non-Landing Pilot, continues handling and the Non-Handling Landing Pilot continues non-handling until the next call of "land" or "go-around", as appropriate.
Clear as mud.
Nev
In view of the recent confusion over these rules, it was deemed necessary to restate them clearly.
CONFUSION
"It appears some confusion exists over the new pilot role titles. This notice will hopefully clear up any misunderstandings.
"The titles Pilot-in-command, Commander, First Officer, Pilot Flying, Pilot-not-flying, P1, P2 and Co-Pilot will now cease to have any meaning, within the BA operations manuals. They are to be replaced by Handling Pilot, Non-Handling Pilot, Handling Landing Pilot, Non-Handling Landing Pilot, Handling Non-Landing Pilot, and Non-Handling Non-Landing Pilot.
"The Landing Pilot is initially the Handling Pilot and will handle the take-off and landing, except in role reversal when he is the Non-Handling Pilot for taxi, until the Handling Non-Landing Pilot hands the Handling to the Landing Pilot at eighty knots.
"The Non-Landing (Non-Handling, since the Landing Pilot is handling) Pilot reads the checklist to the Handling Pilot until after the Before Descent Checklist completion, when the Handling Landing Pilot hands the handling to the Non-Handling Non-Landing Pilot who then becomes the Handling Non-Landing Pilot.
"The Landing Pilot is the Non-Handling Pilot until the "decision altitude" call, when the Handling Non-Landing Pilot hands the handling to the Non-Handling Landing Pilot, unless the latter calls "go-around", in which case the Handling Non-Landing Pilot, continues handling and the Non-Handling Landing Pilot continues non-handling until the next call of "land" or "go-around", as appropriate.
Clear as mud.
Nev
In view of the recent confusion over these rules, it was deemed necessary to restate them clearly.
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Brilliant Nev.

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Now at the age where I know I like girls but can't remember why!
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ummm, I would think it was written for the Nigels, Eric... or am I mistaken
Joe
Joe
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Not for me 

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Me neither.
Nigel²
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Nigel
I used to be an optimist but with age I am now a grumpy old pessimist.
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Nor me.
Nigel
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No, not the Nigels. THE Nigels
Anyway, it makes perfect sense to me. Which is a bit worrying as not much else in aviation ever did
Maybe I should have become a Nigel. (No - not a Nigel. A NIGEL!
)
Ian
Anyway, it makes perfect sense to me. Which is a bit worrying as not much else in aviation ever did
Maybe I should have become a Nigel. (No - not a Nigel. A NIGEL!
Ian
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Definition of a NIGEL:-speedbird591 wrote:No, not the Nigels. THE Nigels![]()
Anyway, it makes perfect sense to me. Which is a bit worrying as not much else in aviation ever did![]()
Maybe I should have become a Nigel. (No - not a Nigel. A NIGEL!)
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