Real HS Trident question...

Macs · Post by **Macs** » 13 Jun 2006, 12:46

DaveB wrote:Macs..

S111 = BAC Super One-Eleven

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Ok. Cool. Thanks Dave.
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Macs

petermcleland · Post by **petermcleland** » 13 Jun 2006, 22:58

Macs wrote: What is the name if the weather radar used by the Trident? Just curious.

Macs,

I just can't remember...It is quite possible that I never knew :redface: ...It was...well...the "Weather Radar" or mostly just the "Radar".

Dave has answered about the Super One Eleven.

The Tridents never had Decca...in fact nothing changed in the Tridents the whole time I flew them. The flight deck was as David Maltby has drawn it and no changes were made.

Sadly, the S111 was modded after I left it and they removed the HARCO on "Expense" grounds. Very sad as it was a very wonderful piece of kit to operate and I felt that BA were cheating a bit to remove it...The S111 was introduced into service with Two pilots, as opposed to the Three on the Vanguard and Trident, on the grounds that HARCO would reduce the workload in the highly intensive "German Internals" operation, sufficiently for it to be operated with only Two pilots...Then after a few years they took away HARCO :roll:

Macs · Post by **Macs** » 14 Jun 2006, 01:34

petermcleland wrote:
Macs wrote: What is the name if the weather radar used by the Trident? Just curious.
Macs,

I just can't remember...It is quite possible that I never knew :redface: ...It was...well...the "Weather Radar" or mostly just the "Radar".

Dave has answered about the Super One Eleven.

The Tridents never had Decca...in fact nothing changed in the Tridents the whole time I flew them. The flight deck was as David Maltby has drawn it and no changes were made.

Sadly, the S111 was modded after I left it and they removed the HARCO on "Expense" grounds. Very sad as it was a very wonderful piece of kit to operate and I felt that BA were cheating a bit to remove it...The S111 was introduced into service with Two pilots, as opposed to the Three on the Vanguard and Trident, on the grounds that HARCO would reduce the workload in the highly intensive "German Internals" operation, sufficiently for it to be operated with only Two pilots...Then after a few years they took away HARCO :roll:

Very interesting, thanks again Peter. Just out of curiosity, how were diversions from routes (say weather) handled with HARCO? Could you use heading mode on the AP? Did you have a moving map display? counters? Sounds very interesting. I have been reading about DECCA and it sounds like LORAN C. I guess it was a true area navigation system... Just curious,
regards,
Macs

Post by **DaveB** » 14 Jun 2006, 01:59

Macs..

To save Peter's little grey cells from working harder than necessary, I have a Trident3 Ops manual here. The weather radar is/was an EKCO 290 and was fitted to many British aircraft of the era

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Macs · Post by **Macs** » 14 Jun 2006, 02:42

DaveB wrote:Macs..

To save Peter's little grey cells from working harder than necessary, I have a Trident3 Ops manual here. The weather radar is/was an EKCO 290 and was fitted to many British aircraft of the era

ATB

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Awesome Dave! Thanks for the info! You would not have any pictures of it in action would you? Maybe some scanned diagrams? The reason why I am asking is that I am trying to see if a talented gauge desinger (DM included

) could make one for FS. I have already made the inquiries to both DM and LC to see if this can be done. LC was asking for details on the radar so I am in the look for as much information as I can. Hope this matrializes! I really enjoy using the radar! as a navigation aid

Like I said, I am only inquiring at this point, but let's hope it happens

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Macs

Post by **DaveB** » 14 Jun 2006, 02:48

Hi Macs,

Sorry but I don't have any shots of it in action. It is basically a beam that scans 90deg backwards and forwards across the screen and can be used to display clouds or coastline information. I can scan the relevant section from the Tri3 manual if this would be of use

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Macs · Post by **Macs** » 14 Jun 2006, 03:12

DaveB wrote:Hi Macs,

Sorry but I don't have any shots of it in action. It is basically a beam that scans 90deg backwards and forwards across the screen and can be used to display clouds or coastline information. I can scan the relevant section from the Tri3 manual if this would be of use

ATB

DaveB :tab:

That would be great!

Thanks again Dave
regards,
Macs