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Re: Feeling even better about my bumpy landings....

Posted: 21 Sep 2007, 13:48
by Garry Russell
On the other had he could have just been caught in a gust.....you can't tell from a still photo

I have seen many caught in gusts as they try to touch down.

Garry

Re: Feeling even better about my bumpy landings....

Posted: 21 Sep 2007, 13:50
by forthbridge
Yip, Edinburgh can be quite nasty for crosswinds, in fact a landing in a 737 there has to be my scariest experience. I should have known when the pilot came on after departing Luton saying 'Perfect flying Weather here, unfortunately not so good in Edinburgh'. It was dark on arrival, and we turned over East Lothian from the downwind inbound onto approach, and I remember thinking we were going a little faster than normal (although not realising why) until we were above the runway and I could see the roll and pitch. A few bumps and we were down on all wheels, but the relatively low clearance of the BBJs engines to the ground had my buttocks tightening when I saw how close the wingtips were to hitting the deck :worried: .

Still hats off to all the pilots concerned.... CHEERS

Re: Feeling even better about my bumpy landings....

Posted: 21 Sep 2007, 13:54
by Prop Jockey
I'll swear I always start an approach from the correct height Dave, but what can you do if the airfield has subsided since the approach plates were printed :dunno: ??

Re: Feeling even better about my bumpy landings....

Posted: 21 Sep 2007, 15:53
by DaveB
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

ATB

DaveB :tab:

Re: Feeling even better about my bumpy landings....

Posted: 21 Sep 2007, 16:09
by Garry Russell
Rich

Thanks similar to the problem I have in FS

I make a perfect approach and flare :) .......not my fault MS has put all the runways twenty feet below where I expect them to be. :$ :-( :roll: :roll:

:lol: :lol:

Garry

Re: Feeling even better about my bumpy landings....

Posted: 21 Sep 2007, 16:50
by Prop Jockey
:lol: Me too Gary ! Hats off to Microsoft for being able to model the phenomenon so accurately :thumbsup:

The crew of the ATR could have blamed a dicky Artificial Horizon of course, but the weather's too good for that one to fly. So I'd say they'd probably go with one of the following

a) Landing during an earthquake.
b) Manipulation of the photo to make it look hairy.
c) Having to swerve to the left to avoid a small and cute <substitute cuddly animal of choice> that had run onto the runway.

There's always a reasonable justification for these things :thumbsup:

Cheers

Rich

Re: Feeling even better about my bumpy landings....

Posted: 21 Sep 2007, 18:31
by cstorey
It is a perfectly good crosswind technique, particularly in a high winged aircraft, and has two advantages over the crab/kick it straight technique

i.the upwind aileron is already up, thus preventing gusts getting under the upwind wing ( which can be very alarming)

ii.it almost guarantees there being no downwind drift at the moment of contact, which is very hard on tyres/undercarriages

and I am fairly sure it is the approved technique on A320 derivatives, from recollection of some of the incident reports where there have been tailscrapes

Chris

Re: Feeling even better about my bumpy landings....

Posted: 21 Sep 2007, 21:45
by Tomliner
not my fault MS has put all the runways twenty feet below where I expect them to be
Funny,I seem to have just the same problem Garry. :dunno: EricT

Re: Feeling even better about my bumpy landings....

Posted: 21 Sep 2007, 21:57
by Garry Russell
There you see Eric......the runways do move. :roll:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Garry

Re: Feeling even better about my bumpy landings....

Posted: 22 Sep 2007, 02:26
by TSR2
Edinburgh can be very bad for wind sheer at 100 - ft from the runway, which can give real problems. Earlier in the year I watch a flybe Q400 bounce on the main gear to "re land" breifly on the nose gear. :o

Aircraft had a detailed inspection on landing before being passed as ok. pretty sure it was G-JEDK. I remember talking to the captain on my flight on G-JEDI 15 minutes later and he had said "the approach was horrible tonight"