Classic British Flight Sim

ianhind wrote: The biggest optimist has to be:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-B-O-A-C-V ... _619wt_905

Why not just put it in the bin?

The box is fantastic and you know what, there's something about it (must be the child in me) that I rather like

So shoot me...

Kind regards

John

Oh dear, Colin needs to start mass-producing hammers. And if you don't understand look here:

http://www.cbfsim.org/cb-bb/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=21316

Those Corgi aircraft, I bet you will be able to find plenty at car boot sales and fairs. Say you would buy it for £5 if they don't agree to that they'll say more, meet in the middle probably pick one up boxed for £10. I wouldn't pay any more if I was buying one.

To be brutally honest Darren.. they're not even worth a tenner. No VC10 in the history of VC10's had a window arrangement anything LIKE that shown in those shots.. and that's beside the completely wrong paint. I'd not take one for free with the seller paying the postage.. what's the point

ATB
DaveB

They are toys for kids never meant to be realistic. They were made cheaply, if they were made to be accurate you'd have to pay a lot more. That was never in Corgi's business model as their market was always kids, buying them with their pocket money.

Perhaps.. but I don't think kids have changed that much. I can still remember (albeit only bits) when I was a kid and what Corgi produced then were 'quality' items that looked.. give or take.. like the real thing. If you wanted cheap and cheerful at a small scale, you went for Matchbox (which still looked the part). At the other end of the market were Corgi who had the benefit of 'real' rubber tyres and a larger scale plus accessories like number plate/reg disc sets.
I'd not let any kid of mine waste a tenner on something like that VC10 though tbh.. I've no idea what the original RRP was for something like this. Of course, as the old saying goes.. there's always one

ATB
DaveB

Glue huffers

E-Bay does have a lot of fantasists who over price toys and models because they think they are "collectable antiques", (I blame ill-informed so called "experts" on programmes like Antiques Roadshow) but equally there are those who collect toys, no matter how approximate they look. I'm more familiar with model railways, where sometimes you get a "perfect storm" of collectors whose sole interest is to stick the model behind glass whilst hoping it appreciates in value, meeting "serious" modellers who want a particular, often rare model with known "appearance defects" to detail up and fill a gap in their fleet. Three examples I'm fairly familiar with are the ancient Trix-Liliput AL1 electric, the better rendition of the two models produced in the 1960s and 70s of this loco, but still with known defects, which fetch stupid money despite being to a compromise 3.8mm/foot scale, (one "collector" has recently been advertising at up to £300 with no takers - I was lucky to get my hands on one that had been detailed and repainted, and fitted to a modern chassis, for significantly less - simply because the "collectors" wouldn't buy it as it had been hacked around). The second is the venerable Triang-Hornby "Blue Pullman", a reasonable model but not completely accurate. Triang collectors, and those who wanted to buy them to rebuild for their layouts, used to push the prices for these on e-Bay to three figures - then Bachmann announced a new, modern, super-detailed model for release later this year and suddenly not only were the modellers no longer interested in the Triang version, but those who had bought them to rebuild and detail them started dumping them. Prices have fallen through the floor rather like a lead lined Grand Piano now that they are only of interest to collectors who put a premium on originality and packaging. The third is the Wrenn model of the "Brighton Belle", again rather crude and under-scale but very popular in it's time as the only model of this iconic train. Wrenn and their predecessors Hornby Dublo also attract huge interest from collectors, and so three figure prices were the norm. Now Hornby have announced an all new, super-detailed release of this train for later this year, I expect prices will soften again.

Whilst the Croggi toy airliners of the late 70s were not the best lookers (I had a PanAm 747 which wasn't too bad though and thought the retractable undercarriage great!) I seem to recall they were a rebadged far eastern product, and they were significanly better than the comparable toys of the time, having the retractable undercarriage. They also covered models which other firms didn't include and so were quite desirable as I recall They no longer appeal to the serious modellers who have other, more accurate but more expensive models, but they will appeal to toy collectors, in exactly the same way as the serious modellers are now drifting away from Triang and Wrenn Pullman sets leaving them to become the obsession of dust-collectors. Whether the price being asked is realistic or fantasy in the collecting world I can't say, not being so up on Corgi aircraft prices as I am on model railways, but it will appeal to someone who collects toys first and isn't bothered by fidelity to the real thing.

Well that Corgi model didn't go but if anyone missed it there's another at £44-99
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Corgi-No-1320-Vic ... _500wt_834

And I do agree with Mark's sentiments about buying on eBay. I keep very much to my areas of knowledge. One of my colleagues used to buy furniture from eBay and seemed to be happy with prices/condition but I would have no idea what was good or bad. And there are lots of other areas that I wouldn't have a clue about.

Ian