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Re: BAES / EADS merger?
Posted: 14 Sep 2012, 16:22
by airboatr
Hi Nick
I found this on flicker, perhaps the guy can help you out.
http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/emdjt42/3296229875/
ATB
Joe
Re: BAES / EADS merger?
Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 11:27
by TobyV
What actually happened to that aircraft? Seems to have been deregistered but after that no trace.
Back on topic, I wasn't expecting this tie-up. On the one hand of course BAE is very important for the supply of our own defence equipment but recently I read that it had overtaken Lockheed-Martin as the world's largest defence equipment supplier. Would it be the only source of shipbuilding and submarine building in the combined BAES-EADS enterprise (i.e. would we have some advantage to bring and perhaps increased work in some areas?). Clearly we have been the lead partner in Eurofighter although as someone somewhere suggested, BAES has a habit of closing sites as soon as the aircraft they are producing finish production, so would that remain the status quo? We must also remember that BAES is not primarily an aircraft manufacturer but is (dreaded word) a "systems" company, meaning it sells weapons, radars, vehicles, electronics, all manner of hardware, much of this doubtless originating in the MES and RO companies it absorbed in its past and more recent acquisitions in the United States. Moreover, we would de facto get some shares in Airbus back (not an entirely bad thing in my opinion).
The timing of this rather surprises me. Given both BAES and QQ have been trying to grow by acquisition in the US in recent years, suddenly in the middle of a Euro-crisis, they wish to tie up with the largest areaspace and defence group in Europe. Is something deeper afoot here?
Re: BAES / EADS merger?
Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 03:30
by Chris Trott
According to Aerotransport.org, it was scrapped in 1992 at San Antonio. The forward fuselage was still present between the Dee Howard hangar and the Avis Rent-a-Car in 1999 according to Airlinerlist.com.
Re: BAES / EADS merger?
Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 09:25
by WhisperJet
Hi Joe,
thanks - maybe contacting the photographers at Flickr or Airliners.net is a good idea.
I'll see if that will reveal something. Best would be to persuade a vid-owner to load it up on youtube...
Sorry for the Off Topic
Cheers,
Nick
Re: BAES / EADS merger?
Posted: 18 Sep 2012, 03:17
by airboatr
Hi Nick
Hopfully someone will answer the call.

Re: BAES / EADS merger?
Posted: 18 Sep 2012, 09:55
by dodger
Good Moaning,
Blimey, reading the report about the possible merger i think i have heard this before!!
Quote,
"Given the nature of the companies' activities we would of course want to ensure that the UK's public interest was properly protected," a UK government spokesperson said. Un Quote"
Yeah, Right!!
Roger.
Re: BAES / EADS merger?
Posted: 25 Sep 2012, 21:38
by TobyV
Re: BAES / EADS merger?
Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 13:41
by Scorpius
Make no mistake here. The Americans will never trust the continental Europeans with their secrets, period.
They just about trust us. It was not for nothing they created the security classification 'canaususuk' eyes only. (CANadian, AUStralian, US, UK).
In order for us to bid for equipment, we need to see their classified requirements documents. If it does get swallowed up, then it will be goodbye BAe and all those jobs. I accept that the defence market is shrinking, much the same way just before the 2nd world war.
Politicians never learn.
Nev
Re: BAES / EADS merger?
Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 14:41
by Dev One
DSTL was created because QQ was looked upon as 'Private'. I wonder if they (DSTL) will get contracts on their behalf?
Keith
Re: BAES / EADS merger?
Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 15:20
by DarrenL
Kevin Farnell wrote:Will this be BAESEADS ?
Kevin
It's an anagram of "As bad, see" and no doubt it will be.