Classic British Flight Sim

Hi Eddie

Not yet...I'm keen to see it though

The decals are clearly naff...wrong colour, the title italic on the starboard is wrong and it has the modern trend of using decals for windows which was rightly criticised many years ago with kits made in the 50's

I've seen another pics of the parts and it looks like they have marked the rudder out as per Carvair but it still looks more DC7C to me...time will tell

It's an urban myth based of non checked assumption that the Carvair used a DC 7C fin and rudder.

It was an all new addition to the basic C-54 unit and of course the 7C was also a mod of the C-54 via the DC 6

Not surprising that both extensions produced a similar shape, but the Carvair was a slightly different shape, slightly different size, had the rear panel as a rudder unlike th 7C where it was the back edge hinged going off the top. Structurally, they were not at all alike.

The Carvair was all ATL nose and fin extension with the windscreen frame, cockpit fittings and instruments lower fin and remainder of the airframe standard DC4 with the exception of the brakes. To account for the higher weights, they fitted off the shelf DC 6 brakes

Hi Eddie

Not yet...I'm keen to see it though

The decals are clearly naff...wrong colour, the title italic on the starboard is wrong and it has the modern trend of using decals for windows which was rightly criticised many years ago with kits made in the 50's

I've seen another pics of the parts and it looks like they have marked the rudder out as per Carvair but it still looks more DC7C to me...time will tell

It's an urban myth based of non checked assumption that the Carvair used a DC 7C fin and rudder.

It was an all new addition to the basic C-54 unit and of course the 7C was also a mod of the C-54 via the DC 6

Not surprising that both extensions produced a similar shape, but the Carvair was a slightly different shape, slightly different size, had the rear panel as a rudder unlike th 7C where it was the back edge hinged going off the top. Structurally, they were not at all alike.

The Carvair was all ATL nose and fin extension with the windscreen frame, cockpit fittings and instruments lower fin and remainder of the airframe standard DC4 with the exception of the brakes. To account for the higher weights, they fitted off the shelf DC 6 brakes

Looks like the previous shown decal sheet was an early shot as this link shows the model and a decal sheet with the correct italic and better colour

http://www.super-hobby.co.uk/products/C ... TL-98.html

It arrived this morning

Fist impressions are good.

Nor sure how the detail measure up yet but it looks like a Carvair. Someone mentioned on a review it was a modified DC 6 kit but I've not checked the engines yet. The props and tailplane are C-54/DC 4 but Roden do not make one. Perhaps they will.

Compared to the Minicraft kit of the C-54 it is a bit chunkier...but nothing that can't be put right if wrong and certainly better than the F-RSIN Resin fuse to be used with the Minicraft, although that does come with a seperate front door and a ramp. The Braz Injection moulded conversion has interior details but no ramp.

It does contain the three modern horrors...a cockpit hood containing the roof and windows which means to be accurate you have to paint the inside to match the outside and then you still don't have a solid thickness. By far, the older method of a slot is better as individual bars can be added with sprue strips and glazed.

The second horror is indented panel pines where in reality raise is far more accurate to show seams and strips.

the third is the unforgivable trend of sold fuse with decal windows. No kit produced like this can be deemed accurate, they look awful and those that like decaled windows, mainly because they find it easier could fill window openings, this way they have to be cut out. A point missed is real windows are not flush but recessed slightly and this never looks good. if they gave decals of windows that look like windows then maybe not so bad but solid shapes will not do and the make them light on dark decals which is even worse.

This kit does have the doors scribe which is good as the modern tendency is to have decaled outlines meaning doors are clearly visible on liveries where in real lif they were invisible to a great extent.

The Braz conversion has an interior but what good is that without windows and that does not have them either. Maybe they don't realise the windows go straight through .

The things I mention are more concessions to ease of construction and models that look how folk seem to think they should without modelling to how the real thing looked.

I'd like to make this one up in the 1960's BUAF livery and it can sit at Southend along with a DC 4 made up as Channels Airways G-ARYY...the Carvair that never was as Channel bought it for conversion but ATL would not at that time covert DC 4's so it lived at Southend as a 88 seater mainly on the Ostend shuttle.

However, I am pleased and details will no doubt show themselves, but, if you grabbed it and stuck it together as it comes out of the box...even it there were issues with engines and other details nothing confirmed yet, as it is, made up, it will look just like a Carvair.

Who'd ever think there would be an injection moulded Carvair

Indeed mate.. who'd a thunk it

Overall, you seem very happy and that's the important thing Can't wait to see shots of her when built

ATB
DaveB

Yes mate...if we live that long

Know what you mean Garry,
I have a dozen unmade kits in the "Museum" shed. None of them started, but they look good in my imagination.
One day, I'll spoil it all by making one up.

Indeed

I have an Islander part way converted to a Trislander, a Tay Viscount part cut up and a Vanguard I've got as far as making the too small windows bigger, cutting off the rudder and making windscreen bars.

In addition I have a Glenco Viscount part converted to an 800 and another fuse cut down to a 630 but moving and being between two places means not much moves as motivation space and in one case the port side of the model are lacking.

Apologies for resurrecting this thread but one of the guy's at Brooklands is after the same kit. He says it's BUA but I can only find it in BAF

Did you ever make it mate??

I've found this place has it in stock.. http://www.super-hobby.co.uk/products/C ... TL-98.html and the price seems to be on par with everywhere else

ATB
DaveB