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Re: Nice job by US Air Captain
Posted: 16 Jan 2009, 19:40
by Speedbird217
I wish I could FSX working this smooth.......
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/7834499.stm
I'll have a go at that tonight.....
ATB
Robin
Re: Nice job by US Air Captain
Posted: 16 Jan 2009, 19:58
by speedbird591
DispatchDragon wrote:Sorry guys
In the shots from the helicopters immeadiatly after the ditching BOTh engines were still attached
No need to apologise, Leif. Not your fault

Put it down to French design - like the Citroen DS!
Just grabbed this post from Pprune which explains the discrepancy
"Also, are the engine pylons designed to shear off under the stress of a water landing?"
I think the answer is somewhere on PPRuNe. I know for a fact that in the early days Airbus adopted a different means from Boeing to meet the requirement that (from memory) in an accident large masses should not fly around and cause even more damage to the plane and pax cabin. Boeing always used the famous "fuse pins" designed to let the engines separate early under relatively low loads. Airbus chose to ensure, as far as possible, that the engines remain attached.
I'm not 100% sure that this philosophy was carried over to the A320 Family, but I think it was.
And this one, which caused me much merriment
My thoughts, as ever, are with the families of the birds concerned.
Ian

Re: Nice job by US Air Captain
Posted: 16 Jan 2009, 21:08
by DispatchDragon
My turn to apolgise --
The FAA "Go Team" are now reporting both engines are gone , however they are not sure if it was at impact or during the
salvage recovery by the tugs.
Either way -- scuse me
Leif
Re: Nice job by US Air Captain
Posted: 16 Jan 2009, 21:39
by airboatr
rear door was to remain closed . opening it would have caused it to fill more quickly
because of the attitude as per the FAA investigator comments on the TV.
but I couldn't imagine it could have been opened anyway, with the pressure differences.
and or damage.
Re: Nice job by US Air Captain
Posted: 16 Jan 2009, 21:42
by speedbird591
DispatchDragon wrote:The FAA "Go Team" are now reporting both engines are gone , however they are not sure if it was at impact or during the
salvage recovery by the tugs.
If they did shear on impact, we can now wonder if it was by design (have Airbus changed their philosophy?) or by accident (have Airbus kept their philosophy, but it didn't work?) ;-)
Ian

Re: Nice job by US Air Captain
Posted: 17 Jan 2009, 04:18
by mgchristy
The more you read about Captain Sullenberger, his skill and calm resolve become apparent. His amazing performance only
began with the water landing; his post-landing behavior was equally admirable...
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/01 ... ays_f.html
Re: Nice job by US Air Captain
Posted: 17 Jan 2009, 07:12
by Paul K
A small video of it happening. Look to the left of the picture.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7834853.stm
Well done to those ferries for getting there so quickly, too.
Re: Nice job by US Air Captain
Posted: 17 Jan 2009, 12:51
by Vulcan_to_the_Sky!
Incredible skill and calm nature. I was reading earlier that he may recieve the congressional medal of honour for this (The captain).
It says a lot for the airline manufacturers industry too, ok so it was great flying which helped to avert a tragedy, but the plane more or less also stayed in once piece, minus its engines. I believe they are still looking for them at the bottom of the river. Its quite unlucky to hit so many birds at once, but all credit to the flight crew and especially the pilot for handling a situation so well, and with such a calm nature!
As has been said, the "crash" was only the first part, not only did he safely bring the plane down in the river, he stayed onboard until *everyone* had been evacuated, and even gave his dry clothing to passengers to keep them warm.
A True Hero!
Re: Nice job by US Air Captain
Posted: 17 Jan 2009, 13:13
by SkippyBing
A small video of it happening.
The deceleration is certainly impressive, you can see why the brace position is so important!
Re: Nice job by US Air Captain
Posted: 17 Jan 2009, 13:45
by forthbridge
SkippyBing wrote:A small video of it happening.
The deceleration is certainly impressive, you can see why the brace position is so important!
:o I would subsitute 'Impressive' for 'Bl**dy scary' there Skip....
Little wonder the engines are at the bottom of the river, goodness knows what force they took on impact with the water!