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Re: Black 5 for Speedbird591
Posted: 19 May 2010, 16:41
by Garry Russell
Why a Deltic though Bob over a normal inline set up??
There seems to be an awlful lot of bits clattering about

Re: Black 5 for Speedbird591
Posted: 19 May 2010, 18:12
by airboatr
my guess - and it's only a guess - is that it has something to do with going passed ten on the dial
and cranking it up to eleven.. or as bob described ..all the way to thirtysix

Re: Black 5 for Speedbird591
Posted: 19 May 2010, 18:19
by Garry Russell
Do you mean........like.......mega heavy duty??
Precision when you think that all has to line up if it's going to run more than a few hours and no computers in those days to run robots for manufacturing.........Robots eh!!....who needs 'em
They did however have Roberts driving the locos....Deltic Roberts in fact

Re: Black 5 for Speedbird591
Posted: 19 May 2010, 18:54
by airboatr
yes thats right Garry . you hippie
remember "The Secret Life Of Machines"
I'd like to know the deltics secrets
or maybe the Connections Program .... but then, with all those connections the show might not ever end.

Re: Black 5 for Speedbird591
Posted: 19 May 2010, 18:56
by Garry Russell
Hippy...............Hippy!!!!
I know of a Hippy's wife who lives in the States
Mrs. Hippy

Re: Black 5 for Speedbird591
Posted: 19 May 2010, 18:59
by airboatr
Garry Russell wrote:Hippy...............Hippy!!!!
I know of a Hippy's wife who lives in the States
Mrs. Hippy

what state is she living in .....

Re: Black 5 for Speedbird591
Posted: 19 May 2010, 19:03
by Garry Russell
She's usually in a spaced out State

Re: Black 5 for Speedbird591
Posted: 19 May 2010, 21:47
by airboatr
ah
that would be California. Happens quite frequently there... or so I was told
which is odd because thats about how far this threads jumped off tracks... over a pond even

Re: Black 5 for Speedbird591
Posted: 20 May 2010, 17:27
by delticbob
airboatr wrote:
I'd like to know the deltics secrets
High power to weight ration. The locomotives had two power unit/generator sets each at 1650hp running at a max speed of 1500rpm & a maximum (officially) permitted speed of 100mph.
Compare that with the other express locomotives of the day, known to all as the "Class 47", fitted with one Sulzer 12LDA28-C engine of 2750hp at 800rpm, a maximum speed of 95mph & a weight of 114 tons, or the various 'Peak' class loco's (Classes 44, 45 & 46) which used the slightly earlier varient of the engine in the Class 47, but with a max speed of 90mph & turning the scales at between 133 & 139 tons.
The added advantage of course with the Deltic was it had/has two engines, so if one expired - as happened a few years ago with 55022 (see
http://www.royalscotsgrey.com/) when it in typical deltic fashion, it managed to 'put a leg out of bed', to use the correct rail speak for throwing a piston out of the crank case cover, wrecking it & that associated block. Thus it can either continue on 1 engine - [the electrical outputs being so configures that if the loco is working on 1 engine the output from the main generator goes to all six traction motors - one mounted underneath on each axel, as 55022 did all the way from Doncaster [where the piston let go], all the way to Edinburgh, or at least to the next station or loop, so as to clear the line for following trains.
Anyhow enough waffle from me on one of my favourite topics - this is a steam thread - Chuggington
Bob
Re: Black 5 for Speedbird591
Posted: 20 May 2010, 18:34
by airboatr
thanks for that Bob.
I think I got it.
The forces required to hold down the head to the block in an inline
are being tranfered to an outputshaft in a deltic engine.
chooo chooo
