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VC10 take-off questions
Posted: 23 Sep 2007, 00:02
by Grace Quirrel
Evening all,
A couple of questions as I seek to become 100% familiar with the Maltby 10...
1. Despite masses of down pitch, the aircraft will not unstick at rotation speed and I am almost out of runway (in fact, I was into the over-run area at Calcutta today when the nose finally lifted!). This even happens with light fuel and payload
2. On brake release and full throttle, I get a beep-beep-beep aural warning which doesn't clear until 70-80kts. I though it was a flap config warning, but I have flap 20 as recommended and can't see what else it might be
Help...

Re: VC10 take-off questions
Posted: 23 Sep 2007, 00:26
by DaveB
Hi Grace..
You are out of trim

I can't remember the exact number but it varies from load to load and is indicated on the 'intuitive' checklist. Hit the 'Up' trim until the red cross on the checklist goes to a green 'tick' and you're there or thereabouts ;-) If the aircraft is not configured for takeoff correctly, it will tell you so when you open the throttles

Flaps 1 should be adequate for takeoff as in FS9, it selects full slat and T/O flap ;-)
ATB
DaveB :tab:
Re: VC10 take-off questions
Posted: 23 Sep 2007, 00:30
by Garry Russell
It's varies but I use about 4-5 degrees up trim
As Dave says you are out of trim and that's the warning
Unless you have enough up trim you will not take off....not even with zero trim
Garry
Re: VC10 take-off questions
Posted: 23 Sep 2007, 15:26
by Grace Quirrel
Ah, ok. I was only using the manual pitch wheels on the autopilot. No wonder I nearly ended up in the scenery. Thank goodness I have been using major fields with long runways... I have just done a couple of touch and goes at Prestwick and it's now rotating as required.
Do I also use Down trim at top of descent, or just use the manual pitch wheels to achieve the desired rate of descent?
Thank you guys.
Re: VC10 take-off questions
Posted: 23 Sep 2007, 15:40
by TSR2
Power Atitude Trim... ;-)
Basicly the trim is there so that you don't have to pull and haul on the controls. The Trim does the hard work for you. So at TOD Set your power, then pitch nose down, then adjust the trim (ever so slightly) to take the preasure off the controls. If your aircraft is trimmed correctly it should be hands free flying.

Re: VC10 take-off questions
Posted: 23 Sep 2007, 15:59
by DanKH
Included in Davids splendid VC10 is also a very enlightening manual of how to fly the aircraft, and what settings to use depending on weight, pressure etc. etc.
Also a very good description on how to fly the decent... You can safely fly it to the letters.
Although David can't remember a single syllable of what he wrote way back when, he definitely knew what he was writing at the time he did it ;-)
Probably with the help of a kind word or two from Tonks I would guess ;-)
It is also available within the knee-board, just another nice little gimmick included in this wonderful aircraft ;-)
Re: VC10 take-off questions
Posted: 23 Sep 2007, 16:35
by DaveB
Yo Mr T
The only thing from that list not modelled is aileron upset and to be honest, I'm not sure Flightsim could duplicate it. Few folk know what it is anyway so a picture does the job!
ATB
DaveB :tab:
Re: VC10 take-off questions
Posted: 23 Sep 2007, 16:52
by Garry Russell
I thought aileron upset was standard in FS :roll:
Well something keeps upsetting my ailerons.......
and elevators.......
and rudder.......
Garry
Re: VC10 take-off questions
Posted: 23 Sep 2007, 17:02
by DaveB
Do you still run them odd and even days Tonks (A then B).. (he asks, trying to remember what he was told all those years ago) :o :think:
ATB
DaveB :tab:
Re: VC10 take-off questions
Posted: 23 Sep 2007, 17:11
by Garry Russell