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Oooops - who forgot to lower the gear then?
Posted: 11 Dec 2007, 14:15
by Nigel H-J
Re: Oooops - who forgot to lower the gear then?
Posted: 11 Dec 2007, 14:27
by Garry Russell
Thansk for that Nigel
It doesn't seem accidental to me :think:
Thw alarm.... the sudden camera angle change at touchdown..... and the lack of swearing
And yet the approach doesn't seem to be the long slow setup you would think with an incident
Looks a bit suspicious
Garry xwink
Re: Oooops - who forgot to lower the gear then?
Posted: 11 Dec 2007, 14:28
by airboatr
so that what it sounds like ........

like finger nails on a chalkboard
looks like at the end the pilot was patting the panel visor .... like good girl ...:goodman: safe at home
good find Nigel
Re: Oooops - who forgot to lower the gear then?
Posted: 12 Dec 2007, 18:41
by Vulcan_to_the_Sky!
I Suspect they knew what was about to happen.
I reckon it was a practice gear up landing, although WHY you would want to is beyond me.
The Gear up warning horn was loud enough as well so you would have though they might of heard it.
Pretty cool video!
Re: Oooops - who forgot to lower the gear then?
Posted: 12 Dec 2007, 18:51
by Garry Russell
Just seemed a short final for such a landing and they didn't switch off
Garry
Re: Oooops - who forgot to lower the gear then?
Posted: 12 Dec 2007, 21:18
by DispatchDragon
Its been along time since I flew in a Cessna single retractable but it doesnt sound like the gear warning on older models.
Plus several things dont make sense
As Garry said if it was planned- then why make such a short final, why land on concrete when there is grass (its less
expensive) and why didn't they pull the trick of stopping the prop and cycling the starter until it was horizontal?
The noise actually sounds like a wheel pant that has come loose or even a sticking brake
Plus there is not that horrible noise as the prop strikes concrete and destroys itself and quite frequently the engine
and one final thing - Cessnas when they are landed gear up tend to fall over onto one wing tip as they come to rest
just my opinion btw
Leif
Re: Oooops - who forgot to lower the gear then?
Posted: 12 Dec 2007, 21:43
by Garry Russell
Thanks Leif
That is a better explanation than I can give not being a pilot.....with me it just seems wrong.
One other thing
If I had filmed that then it would be really special and newsworthy so I would have filmed the outside in a general scene and the damage even if it was a day or too later..
Also no hurry to leave.
The full story is not being told here methinks
Garry
Re: Oooops - who forgot to lower the gear then?
Posted: 13 Dec 2007, 18:38
by Vulcan_to_the_Sky!
Now that it has been mentioned, it now also confuses me as to why the prop wasn't stopped.
I think your right Garry, theres more to this then we are seeing.
EDIT:
After doing a bit of sniffing around on the net, I've found out it was an accident.
Heres a quote from the pilot:
From Paul Wingo:
"There was a snow storm approaching in about an hour and we were doing a check ride. Because of possible ice, we had been flying with the gear down the entire time. We started doing touch and goes after a while. Habit when you take off is to raise the gear. This is what happened. So, when we come around, they were conversing and what not and simply forgot the gear was up. The prop got bent up pretty bad along with the belly of the plane." (less)
Re: Oooops - who forgot to lower the gear then?
Posted: 13 Dec 2007, 19:53
by airboatr
put a dent in the wallet too
uh huh