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vc10 pitch
Posted: 09 Feb 2008, 18:11
by sags
Hi
Please excuse me if this one has been discussed before. I have gone through many posts here but could not find anything.
Dave's VC10 at level flight flies at a 0 degree pitch which I believe is correct. On descent, the pitch is very negative.
My questions are:
1. With what pitch (degrees) do these birds descend?
2. What descent in feet/minute should it have?
In otherwords - is Dave's FDE correct?
Thanks
Regards
Trevor
Re: vc10 pitch
Posted: 09 Feb 2008, 18:18
by Garry Russell
Hi Trevor
And Welcome to the forum
It always seems to me to be nose up in the cruise and more so on approah :think:
We have a resident VC 10 pilot who might be arround sometime
Garry
Re: vc10 pitch
Posted: 09 Feb 2008, 19:38
by TSR2
Hi Trevor,
The 10 never really had a significant nose down attitued on approach, and I've just done a quick circuit at Aldergrove to confirm. Is it possible you have an old (FS2002) model? The current VC10's are all on DM's site,
http://www.dmflightsim.co.uk
Cheers
Re: vc10 pitch
Posted: 09 Feb 2008, 21:27
by DaveB
Hi Trevor and welcome
There's also an excellent tutorial on flying the VC10 on David's website ;-) The FD was reworked as a consequence of DM and I being fortunate enough to fly in the real thing as well as fly the sim at BZN some years back. It was certainly very close to the real thing in much of the flight envelope so.. in answer to your question is the FD correct (not FDE which was the engine used in Fsim some years ago to rework FD's).. no, it's not. This is a forty quid sim when all is said and done ;-) However.. if the question were 'Is the FD a pretty accurate representation of the real thing?'.. then the answer would be yes
ATB
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Re: vc10 pitch
Posted: 10 Feb 2008, 10:27
by sags
Dave
Are you then saying that when you fly DM's VC10, the pitch attitude is zero degrees in level flight and on descent the pitch becomes negative 2 to 3 degrees?
I AM using the latest FD and model from DM's site
Regards
Trevor
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Re: vc10 pitch
Posted: 10 Feb 2008, 10:40
by Hot_Charlie
sags wrote:
1. With what pitch (degrees) do these birds descend?
2. What descent in feet/minute should it have?
I'm sure Tonks will correct me if I'm wrong, but 2-4 degrees nose down sounds about right, and for a standard decent at idle power, no spoilers and 290kts somewhere around 2000 to 2500fpm would seem normal.

Re: vc10 pitch
Posted: 10 Feb 2008, 11:32
by DaveB
Cheers HC ;-)
Trevor..
I 'lived' in the model (in Fsim that is) many moons ago but am only an infrequent user on our VA these days so do not want to give you any bum steers ;-) Tonks and HC live in the 'real' one on a daily basis so I'd take their comments as defacto

There are a number of our VA simmers who fly little else (one that flies NOTHING else!) and these guys will be the one's with their fingers on the pulse with regard to what you can expect to see in the sim these days. I'm hoping one of them will read this and get you sorted ;-)
ATB
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Re: vc10 pitch
Posted: 10 Feb 2008, 13:47
by sags
Thanks guys
Your assistance is appreciated. I take it that TONKS is a current VC/KC10 driver. Lucky guy - IMHO the vc10 was the best jetliner in the sky in the 60's and early 70's.
Regards
Trevor
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Re: vc10 pitch
Posted: 10 Feb 2008, 13:54
by Garry Russell
Indees Sags.
He is in fact a training captain
Garry
Re: vc10 pitch
Posted: 10 Feb 2008, 14:04
by airboatr
He's not a bad picture taker either...........
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