Classic British Flight Sim

I thought you would like to see the notice that British Airways sent to its pilots explaining what we (Air New Zealand) refer to as the "monitored approach", a method where on an approach to very low visibility and ceiling one pilot flies the approach and when the other pilots sees the runway he calls ...."I have contact ".... then by the pre-arrangement, he then takes the controls of the the plane and lands it.

This removes the problem of the pilot having to make the transition from flying instruments and at the last minute looking outside and "getting his bearings" as the other pilot is already "outside". If the pilot not flying has said nothing by the time they reach minimum safe altitude, the pilot flying automatically starts the go-around procedure as he is still on the instruments.

Now try this actual explanation of this procedure from the British Airways manual which endeavours to clarify that simple arrangement.

*** British Airways Flight Operations Department Notice ***

There appears to be some confusion over the new pilot role titles. This notice will hopefully clear up any misunderstandings.

The titles P1 (Pilot 1), P2 (Pilot 2) and Co-Pilot will now cease to have any meaning, within the BA operations manuals.

They are to be replaced by Handling Pilot, Non-handling Pilot, Handling Landing Pilot, Non-Handling Landing Pilot, Handling Non-Landing Pilot, and Non Handling Non-Landing Pilot.

The Landing Pilot, is initially the Handling Pilot and will handle the take-off and landing except in role reversal when he is the Non-Handling Pilot for taxi until the Handling Non-Landing Pilot, hands the handling to the Landing Pilot at eighty knots.

The Non-Landing (Non-Handling, since the Landing Pilot is handling) Pilot reads the checklist to the Handling Pilot until after Before Descent Checklist completion, when the Handling Landing Pilot hands the handling to the Non-Handling Non-Landing Pilot who then becomes the Handling Non-Landing Pilot.

The Landing Pilot is the Non-Handling Pilot until the decision altitude call, when the Handling Non-Landing Pilot hands the handling to the Non-Handling Landing Pilot, unless the latter calls "go-around", in which case the Handling Non-Landing Pilot, continues Handling and the Non-Handling Landing Pilot continues non-handling until the next call of "LAND" or "GO-AROUND" as appropriate.

In view of the recent confusion over these rules, it was deemed necessary to restate them clearly

I have actually previously posted this over at HJG ....
http://tonymadgehjg.proboards98.com/ind ... hread=2186
.... didn't get much response there though ! :-(

Mark C :flying:
AKL/NZ & BOG/CO

I make that about four pilots, where do they all sit?!?

Shurely Shome Mishtake! That could have come straight from the pages of 'Private Eye'

I see now why Vanguards had 4 seats 'up front' :roll:

ATB

DaveB :tab:

Gobbly-gook at its' best....or should that be worst? :brick: :doho: HELP

Nigel.

Why don't they just call all of them Nigel???

Garry

Nah! ....I'm sure that is some sort of joke, written by some wag taking the p1ss

Why don't they just call all of them Nigel???

Nigel

Actually, since the well publicised breathalyser incidents, all flight crew have to recite this from memory in the briefing room before being permitted to join the flight

Garry Russell wrote:Why don't they just call all of them Nigel???

Garry

:o

Nigel²