Classic British Flight Sim

Some pretty eye-opening images from a video taken during the flight included.....

http://www.aaib.gov.uk/publications/bul ... g_cbhl.cfm

Deeply depressing, and it must just make it all the harder for those who lost loved ones so needlessly. Sadly reminiscent of the death of Graham Hill and his F1 team some 30 years ago.

Haven't read the whole report yet (and I normally would), but if the news reports that Colin's licence had expired, as well as his type rating, that's a bit depressing given his means...

Terrible tragedy for the families involved.

James

I think the only thing IN date was his medical James. Though none of this would mean he was incapable of flying.. would you drive your car/motorbike/whatever without a licence Read the report if you get time.. heavy slog and repetative as these things are ;-)

ATB

DaveB :tab:

DaveB wrote:I think the only thing IN date was his medical James. Though none of this would mean he was incapable of flying.. would you drive your car/motorbike/whatever without a licence Read the report if you get time.. heavy slog and repetative as these things are ;-)

I wouldn't Dave. I don't doubt he had the flying ability, but I wonder how his task management was if he'd let his licence and ratings expire. Doesn't matter I suppose. I will read the report though - I used to look forward to them every month when I worked away, but I don't seem to find the time as much now... ;-)

James

You guys must have a really odd system if your pilot's license and type ratings can expire. In the US, once their issued, you only have to maintain currency, there's no expiration of anything but the medical.

Chris, they hadn't expired as such, but he hadn't done the equivalent of a bi-annual flight review so he wasn't in date for a currency check.

Ahh, okay.

Unfortunately Chris, there are lots of things to expire over here :-( The old CAA Flight Crew Licenses were valid for life, but the JAA ones have to be re-issued after 5 years (the radio telephony operators license also must be re-issued after 5 years, but as this is usually issued with your flight crew license initially, the expirary dates are coincidental). In the case. the license had not been re-issued before the 5 year deadline.

The type rating had also lapsed (valid for 1 year). Not everyone has type rating expirations because many aircraft fall under a general category rating (for instance Single Engine Piston (Land)). This type of general category rating must be renewed (Certificate Of Revalidation) either by volume of flights or documented flight with an instructor every 2 years. On top of that, we still have a national rating, the IMC, which also requires a Certificate Of Revalidation being signed every 25 months.

The medicals expire based on the age group you fall into - I guess its the same in the States ?

The process of 're-issueing' your license involves waving bye-bye to about $100 of your hard earned money for your old logbook inserts to be torn up, new ones printed with new re-issue dates for 5 years time, and then their return to you

Cheers

Rich

It is depressing guys. It's made clear (and from other sources) that although there is mention of 'confusion' on McRae's behalf about the licensing regs, he knew perfectly well what the reqs were, and for whatever reason didn't stick to them. One of our drivers is down that way daily, and had heard stories (now apparently confirmed)..... all pretty sad. :-(