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(NEED) panel.cfg with CIVA INS for BAC 1-11

Posted: 16 Jun 2010, 19:12
by Benedettini
I want to use the Inertial Nav system also in BAC but dont know how to set up it.

Can someone send me it?

Thanks.

Re: (NEED) panel.cfg with CIVA INS for BAC 1-11

Posted: 16 Jun 2010, 22:06
by DaveB
Hi Gokalp :hello:

I might be wrong but I didn't think the 1-11 ever used this type of INS. For this reason, you may have difficulty finding anyone here with it fitted (in the 1-11). *-) You might be lucky but I've never heard of anyone using it with a jet of this size :dunno:

ATB

DaveB B)smk

Re: (NEED) panel.cfg with CIVA INS for BAC 1-11

Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 09:29
by Benedettini
BA11s only used VOR to VOR?

What about hi-attitude airways? How do you use them with only using VOR and ADF?

Re: (NEED) panel.cfg with CIVA INS for BAC 1-11

Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 10:12
by Garry Russell
Difficult to know as we her use the classics in the way there were in that timescale. *-)

Re: (NEED) panel.cfg with CIVA INS for BAC 1-11

Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 10:18
by DaveB
Indeed matey. The whole INS 'thing' is to enable aircraft to navigate over longhaul routes where there are no traditional navaids to guide them (VOR or ADF). The 1-11 was only ever a shorthaul aircraft and I'd guess during their main operating years, such things as high level jetyways probably didn't exist as such. Operators like European had GPS fitted in latter years but that's about as sophisticated as it got. Their GPS wasn't connected to the AP either so even then, the system wasn't 'fire and forget'.

ATB

DaveB B)smk

Re: (NEED) panel.cfg with CIVA INS for BAC 1-11

Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 10:24
by Garry Russell
originally the One-Eleven was for shot city to city hops with turn rounds of less than ten minuets.

It was even dubbed the "Bus Stop Jet" although standing outside with my thumb up never got one to land 8)

Not difficult to find Paris or Brussels from London or even Liverpool from Glasgow (unles the beacon at LPL had been knicked) so long range was never an issue.

Re: (NEED) panel.cfg with CIVA INS for BAC 1-11

Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 11:03
by NigelC
Two of our 500srs at BIA (G-AXLN and G-AYWB) had a single Omega fit on the rear of the pedestal. Came from their time out with Cayman Airways. That aside all operation was by radio navigation (VOR/NDB). I recall many times sat on the jumpseat going across the Bay of Biscay with crosscuts being taken from the VORs on the French coast. VORs are good for a couple of hundred miles at high level so if you've one behaind you and one ahead you're good for a four hundred mile or so leg. Other than that, use a chart to give a rough track estimate and wait for the beacon to come into range.

Through until the 1990s the airway structure was a lot more Radio Nav friendly but with the advent of FMS and Area Nav more and more waypoints that weren't defined by a radio beacon or radial and DME from a beacon started to come into existance.

Nige

Re: (NEED) panel.cfg with CIVA INS for BAC 1-11

Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 11:27
by DaveB
Cheers Nige :thumbsup:

I was hoping you'd pop in to clarify this one ;)

ATB

DaveB B)smk

Re: (NEED) panel.cfg with CIVA INS for BAC 1-11

Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 11:50
by Garry Russell
Come a long way since navigation was a shout of "two points to Starboard Mr. Baines." :)

That's progress

Re: (NEED) panel.cfg with CIVA INS for BAC 1-11

Posted: 17 Jun 2010, 12:02
by Benedettini
Thanks for you replies.

Well,rough estimation for hi-airways are not for me as it is an estimation
I cant use GPS,as I am in IVAO (As real as it gets)
So,only way is VOR to VOR,ADF...and SIDs and STARS with WPT will also be estimation

Better time to have a FSCommander :D