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Guide to marshalling

Posted: 04 Jan 2013, 00:37
by NigelC

Re: Guide to marshalling

Posted: 04 Jan 2013, 00:58
by FlyTexas
:rofl: Southwest Airlines would hire that guy in a heartbeat. He'd fit right in. :thumbsup: :lol:

Brian

Re: Guide to marshalling

Posted: 04 Jan 2013, 10:37
by Angus Prune
Wow, it's been some time since I last saw that clip.

These days the Army are doing it Gangnam Style...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAl-j9u_7fw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxTYjv1Cgxk

I wonder if that was "Big H" in the Apache?

Re: Guide to marshalling

Posted: 04 Jan 2013, 11:06
by Scorpius
I didn't know that marshalling a multi-million pound aircraft was supposed to be for entertainment purposes. When it goes wrong and the aircraft hits something, who is to blame?

You never walk backwards whilst marshalling either.

Rant over. :OB:

Re: Guide to marshalling

Posted: 04 Jan 2013, 12:11
by NigelC
Scorpius wrote:I didn't know that marshalling a multi-million pound aircraft was supposed to be for entertainment purposes. When it goes wrong and the aircraft hits something, who is to blame?

You never walk backwards whilst marshalling either.

Rant over. :OB:
The Captain/PIC. The pilot in command (PIC) of an aircraft is the person aboard the aircraft who is ultimately responsible for its operation and safety during flight.

Re: Guide to marshalling

Posted: 04 Jan 2013, 13:11
by Angus Prune
Some background explanation for the making of the clip - now 5 years old!

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/matth ... s_Tornado/

Re: Guide to marshalling

Posted: 04 Jan 2013, 15:17
by 511Flyer
Never walk backwards whilst marshalling? Well things must have changed since I was in the RAF. I've marshalled aircraft into and out of parking bays, more times than I can count. All done whilst walking backwards. We had Hastings aircraft, so not the easiest of tasks, but if the captain trusted us and followed our directions there were no problems.

Many times, especially in the dark when we used wands, we parked them nose in then turned them using a tractor. In daylight, we brought them in nose first, and then swung them round on the pan. In my four years on the squadron, we never had one accident.

B)smk

Re: Guide to marshalling

Posted: 04 Jan 2013, 17:31
by dfarrow
Hi guys , from the Air Navigation Order '' a pilot must always for follow marshalling guidance , unless it's not safe to do so '' .... so no matter wot , the pilot in command gets it in the neck . Indeed Leeds/Bradford airport once prosecuted a skipper for not obeying marshallers . Aviation should be fun ...unless you're on fire , out of gas , or it's v.v. foggy !
Wasn't there a *** 'll fix it , years ago when an RAF marshaller guided a Tristar around a figure of 8 of full champagne glasses with the nose wheel straddling the glasses in the line . Not a drop was spilled .

Rgds dave

Re: Guide to marshalling

Posted: 04 Jan 2013, 18:41
by NigelC
Yup, unless it's not safe to do so. If the Captain thinks he's at risk of colliding with something, he should stop, and await further guidance, wing men or whatever. It has been known for an aircraft being marshalled to clip a wingtip on something as it swings round, indeed a AN124 took down several lighting stanchions at Dubai a few years back.

In the vid, pulling out of a parking slot onto a taxiway with defined centreline and other aircraft on a defined pan shouldn't present too much of a collision risk. If there was a perceived danger, stop and await guidance and the marshaller would have stopped his charity gig and cleared the aircraft correctly.

The buck stops with the driver. He is responsible for the safety of the aircraft in flight, and "in flight" is defined as " from when the aircraft first moves under it's own power until it next comes to rest at an assigned parking position."

N

Re: Guide to marshalling

Posted: 04 Jan 2013, 19:06
by Chris Trott
I was taught and always teach that you should not walk backwards while marshaling unless you absolutely have to, and then only when you've thoroughly cleared your path to ensure there's no tripping hazards. Most times, you can easily walk sideways instead of backwards and get the job done, or you can simply stop the plane and move before resuming. Alternately, get a second marshaller and hand off to them when you get to the point you need to walk backwards to move into the new position.

I agree about having fun while marshaling. If you aren't, you shouldn't have anything to do with marshaling. You don't have to dance or anything, just have a little flair and a smile, because if you're not enjoying moving big iron around, then you're gonna probably miss something and something's gonna get very expensively bent. I watched them almost run the AN-124 off the de-ice ramp at Denver where it parks because the guys weren't having fun and weren't interested in the job so they didn't pay attention to where the plane really was on the ramp. Thankfully the crew caught it and stopped at the last second.