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1-11 Pilots Wanted

Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 13:57
by WhisperJet
Real ones... and quite urgently... B-)

Click "News" please, I'm obviously to stupid to copy the link... 8)

http://www.bac1-11jet.co.uk/

Cheers,

Nick

Re: 1-11 Pilots Wanted

Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 14:15
by NigelC
Pretty sure none in Europe. Bringing them in from further afield presents licensing issues. The Northrop Grumman guys from Baltimore would be the best bet as to recency, but they'll be on FAA not EASA licenses. You'd also need a Continuing Airworthiness Management Orgaisation to support it, even for just one flight, as BAe (well Airbus) have turned in the type certificate.

A lot of hurdles, don't get me wrong I'd love to see it preserved.

N

Re: 1-11 Pilots Wanted

Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 14:27
by Garry Russell
Surely a test pilot could fly it...no one is current on a type that makes it's first flight.

In this case there are those around that have flown it...just lapsed *-)

So it shouldn't be a problem :dunno:

Re: 1-11 Pilots Wanted

Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 14:47
by NigelC
Depends whether Qinetiq are kicking it off the Mil reg or not.

Re: 1-11 Pilots Wanted

Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 15:18
by Garry Russell
*-)

Civil and military as well as class B marks have all been used on never before flown types, first flown with test pilots.

Even better, this is a known type with experienced non current pilots

I really can't see the issue here :dunno:

Re: 1-11 Pilots Wanted

Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 17:15
by NigelC
Had a similar issue when a company I was with tried to buy the Jetstream T3's.

The military wouldn't re-rate their pilots and ours couldn't fly them on the miltary register, not even one of the most experienced Jetstream 31 TRE/IRE's. ThE CAA wouldn't let them on the British register, in the end someone else bought them and put them on the US register.

http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7475703

They were only being ferried to be broken for spares.

A lot of is to do with the maintenance status, liability and insurance. Believe it or not, the CAA would class an ex-military 1-11 as a "warbird" in the same way as a Hunter, JP, Vulcan!

Re: 1-11 Pilots Wanted

Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 17:46
by Garry Russell
Like a couple of EasyJet Boeing 737-700 stood down at Stansted. They were re registered in the US for their flight to Kemble for breaking up.

Crazy...we are creating a World that is becomming impossible to live in. :'( :rant:

Re: 1-11 Pilots Wanted

Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 18:01
by NigelC
One of the reasons I got out of working in aviation is that it's becoming over regulated. It's very much a case of when the weight of the paperwork equals the weight of the aircraft, you're cleared for take-off.

AND IT'S STOPPING A VERY IMPORTANT TYPE IN BRITISH AVIATION HISTORY BEING PRESERVED.

Re: 1-11 Pilots Wanted

Posted: 05 Mar 2013, 08:31
by WhisperJet
Oh fine!
Now it's only paper stuff that prevents ZH763 from being preserved!! :((

Interesting... Peter seems to have removed the post from the website in the mean time... *-)

http://www.bac1-11jet.co.uk/

I don't understand it!

Nick