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Asiana Crash Landing San Francisco
Posted: 06 Jul 2013, 20:57
by Garry Russell
Re: Asiana Crash Landing San Francisco
Posted: 06 Jul 2013, 21:03
by NigelC
At least it will take some of the limelight off the 787

Re: Asiana Crash Landing San Francisco
Posted: 06 Jul 2013, 21:16
by Garry Russell
From reports it was a low and slow high AOA undershoot that took the tail off.
All pax accounted for no loss of life some have burns
Fire took hold relatively slowly allowing evacuation.
Only the second 777 to be lost in a crash (one other destroyed in a ground incident), with similar dynamics to the BA LHR crash landing but of course the reasons here are unknown. It does seem to indicate the 777 is very tough and as some say built like a tank.
Most immediate concern is the well being of the people involved and that seems to be good in the circumstances.
Re: Asiana Crash Landing San Francisco
Posted: 06 Jul 2013, 21:18
by DarrenL
Garry Russell wrote:From reports it was a low and slow high AOA undershoot that took the tail off.
Quite a hefty breakwater at the end of the runway impact marks and lots of debris

Re: Asiana Crash Landing San Francisco
Posted: 06 Jul 2013, 21:36
by NigelC
Wow....it would appear they have been very, very fortunate.
Re: Asiana Crash Landing San Francisco
Posted: 06 Jul 2013, 21:57
by speedbird591
As Gary suggests, I think it has a lot of similarities to the BA038 incident at LHR. A sensible sounding eyewitness reported that it was wobbling on final approach which would suggest a loss of power leading to a stall. The BA incident was traced to a heat exchanger in RR engines but a similar problem would explain what we can see in the pictures.
Ian

Re: Asiana Crash Landing San Francisco
Posted: 06 Jul 2013, 22:57
by NigelC
Different engines. PW in this one.
Re: Asiana Crash Landing San Francisco
Posted: 07 Jul 2013, 00:15
by Garry Russell
FR24 replay shows it still over the sea at 88Kts
Re: Asiana Crash Landing San Francisco
Posted: 07 Jul 2013, 00:21
by airboatr
2 DOA, reported 10 with critical injury.
Joe
Re: Asiana Crash Landing San Francisco
Posted: 07 Jul 2013, 01:00
by Chris Trott
Sad to see this. Heard reports that wake turbulence may have been "lingering" today, so if they were coming in slow and encountered it, it's entirely possible they stalled it.
Unfortunately, it looks extremely similar to several other Korean airline crashes in the last 30 years. Thankfully this one seems to be minus the massive loss of life that several of the others resulted in.