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Merchant Navy Day

Posted: 03 Sep 2015, 20:38
by Paul K
September 3rd is Merchant Navy day ( me neither, and I was in it ! ).

http://www.merchantnavyfund.org/merchant-navy-day/

Just thought I'd mention it. ;)

Re: Merchant Navy Day

Posted: 03 Sep 2015, 21:09
by DaveB
God lordy.. me neither :-O

Thanks for the HU Paul :thumbsup:
ATB
DaveB B)smk

Re: Merchant Navy Day

Posted: 03 Sep 2015, 22:17
by airboatr
My great grandfather and grandfather was in the merchant marine during WW1

This is a photo of my great grandfather (second row far left) with his mates in a prison camp.

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Re: Merchant Navy Day

Posted: 03 Sep 2015, 22:28
by DaveB
In a prison camp :-O Good lord Joe. I presume it was a prison camp in foreign parts.. not in the U.S. :worried:

Nice pic btw ;)

ATB
DaveB B)smk

Re: Merchant Navy Day

Posted: 03 Sep 2015, 23:48
by airboatr
US?

No Dave, it was them Germans who sunk his ship.. :rant:

;)

Re: Merchant Navy Day

Posted: 03 Sep 2015, 23:59
by DaveB
Do you have a picture of his ship Joe??
ATB
DaveB B)smk

Re: Merchant Navy Day

Posted: 04 Sep 2015, 00:49
by FlyTexas
DaveB wrote:In a prison camp :-O Good lord Joe. I presume it was a prison camp in foreign parts.. not in the U.S. :worried:
:lol: They look to be in pretty good spirits, all things considered. Thanks for sharing the pic with us, Joe. :)

Brian

Re: Merchant Navy Day

Posted: 04 Sep 2015, 02:24
by Kevin Farnell
Paul K wrote:September 3rd is Merchant Navy day.
Also, the anniversary of the start of the Second World War in 1939. By co-incidence, that also ties in with the second birthday of my late beloved Father.

Not an easy day for me.

Kevin

Re: Merchant Navy Day

Posted: 04 Sep 2015, 03:37
by airboatr
Hi Kevin,

While we can not take away your sorrow, we are here and wish you well..
DaveB wrote:Do you have a picture of his ship Joe??
ATB
DaveB B)smk

I'm checking with my cousin who rounded up all the pictures and historical facts to get a pic .. or at least the name of the ship

I do have a pic of him on the Chiverston Cardiff?. from around 1910.. would that be it?

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a close up of the bell

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Torpedo Badge and Bar

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Re: Merchant Navy Day

Posted: 04 Sep 2015, 05:41
by Airspeed
DaveB wrote:Do you have a picture of his ship Joe??
ATB
DaveB B)smk
This was taken some time afterwards....
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EDIT2:
But I THINK this might be the real deal (see below)
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Name CHIVERSTONE
Type Cargo steamship
Yard Number 489
Launched 27/07/1897
Completed 08/1897
Off. Number 105190
Engine builder Blair & Co., Stockton-on-Tees
Engine type T 3 cyl.
GRT 2946
Length (feet) 330
Beam (feet) 43.1
First owner Anning Bros., Cardiff.

History 1914 Chiverstone S.S. Co. Ltd. (Anning Bros.), Cardiff
1916 Amaral, Sutherland & Co. Ltd., Cardiff
1918 Guéret's Anglo-Brazilian Coaling Co. Ltd., Cardiff
1919 The Times Shipping Co. L:td., Cardiff
1920 renamed MICHAELSTON
1924 FERNGARTH, Henry Clapham & Co. Ltd. (L. Macarthy), Newcastle
1928 Garthh Shipping Co. Ltd. (same manager)

Fate 16/10/1929 Damaged when rammed by Norwegian HEDRUN while at anchor in Havre Roads, on passage Casablanca for Rouen with phosphate, broken up in France during 03/1930.
Sounds like he was on another ship when he was sunk. Makes sense, as he's in uniform, while the Chiverstone was a freighter.
Jaunty angle on your ancestor's cap, Joe.
If I'd worn my school cap like that, I' would have got detention. :(

Have searched lists of ships sunk in WWI, but could not find Chiverston or Chiverston Cardiff.
Tried searching for any ship called Chiverston, but Google found Chiverton by the truckload.
I tried, Joe ;)

EDIT: Could the name be Chiverstone? see this from the National Archives; any familiar names here?

Reference: BT 400/3515/11
Description:

Ship: Chiverstone; Official number: 105190.

S F Clements; rank/rating, Master; age, 35; place of birth, Bath; previous ship, same.

W A Wor?; rank/rating, 1st Mate; age, 45; place of birth, Weymouth; previous ship, Jessie of Liverpool.

J Mca Farquhar; rank/rating, 2nd Mate; age, 22; place of birth, Banff; previous ship, Ariadne of Alexandria.

W J Littlehales; rank/rating, Steward; age, 41; place of birth, Abergavenny; previous ship, same.

S G Nobes; rank/rating, Mess Room Steward; age, 21; place of birth, London; previous ship, same.

H Guldouror; rank/rating, Ships Cook; age, 43; place of birth, Trondhiem, Norway; previous ship,? Vessel.

A Bellanato; rank/rating, Able Seaman; age, 26; place of birth, Spain; previous ship, same.

W Spinks; rank/rating, Sailor; age, 21; place of birth, Cardiff; previous ship, same.

H Lockie; rank/rating, Sailor; age, 24; place of birth, Newcastle Under Lyme; previous ship, Anglo Californian of London.

E Garay; rank/rating, Sailor; age, 22; place of birth, Chile; previous ship, Mimosa of London.

R G Roberts; rank/rating, Able Seaman; age, 21; place of birth, Pentrch; previous ship, Anglo Californian of London.

F A Stell; rank/rating, Able Seaman; age, 20; place of birth, Bath; previous ship, Inveramsay of Aberdeen.

Charles Anderson; rank/rating, Sailor; age, 44; place of birth, Sweden; previous ship, same.

David D Milne; rank/rating, Boatswain; age, 20; place of birth, Stockton; previous ship, same.

W J Dunn; rank/rating, 1st Engineer; age, 33; place of birth, Cardiff; previous ship, Dawlish of Cardiff.

Joseph Marshall; rank/rating, 2nd Engineer; age, 48; place of birth,?thas; previous ship, Braunton of Cardiff.

W D Lewis; rank/rating, 3rd Engineer; age, 20; place of birth, Treherbert; previous ship, same.

L Espara; rank/rating, Donkeyman; age, 32; place of birth, Alicante; previous ship, same.

Thomas Harris; rank/rating, Fireman and Trimmer; age, 37; place of birth, Bristol; previous ship, same.

M Lau; rank/rating, Fireman and Trimmer; age, 29; place of birth, Stockholm; previous ship, Daleham of London.

K Obsanen; rank/rating, Fireman and Trimmer; age, 26; place of birth, Finland; previous ship, Daleham of London.

J Antonio; rank/rating, Fireman and Trimmer; age, 50; place of birth, Garrucha; previous ship, Rowena of West Hartlepool.

Salvator Heres; rank/rating, Fireman and Trimmer; age, 28; place of birth, Spain; previous ship, same.

Archibald Houston; rank/rating, Fireman and Trimmer; age, 52; place of birth, Glasgow; previous ship, Collivaud of Leith.

Abid Hassen; rank/rating, Fireman and Trimmer; age, 42; place of birth, Aden; previous ship, Foreign.

Serafino Lo Coli; rank/rating, Sailor; age, 42; place of birth, Italy; previous ship, Foreign.

Anen Arnenson; rank/rating, Sailor; age, 35; place of birth, Norway; previous ship, Helga of Norway.

Harry R Munday; rank/rating, Able Seaman; age, 26; place of birth, Dartmouth; previous ship, Highland Loch.
Date: 1915
Held by: National Maritime Museum, not available at The National Archives
Legal status: Public Record
Language: English
Closure status: Open Document, Open Description
Restriction on use: These records are held at the National Maritime Musuem, Greenwich.
Access conditions: Open Immediately