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Your Opinions on this Glider Near Crash!!

Posted: 03 Oct 2021, 17:49
by Nigel H-J
Be interesting to read your thoughts and I actually wonder whether the instructor, if he is one, should have lost his instructor rating for allowing the student, if he is one, to have got himself into such an avoidable position as in the video.

I could add a lot more but would spoil it for you, BTW, this was not in the UK. Apparently from reading some of the comments the chap in the front is a qualified pilot and was under instruction to gain a glider pilots' licence.

Video 4 mins 3 secs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SoUmWYRLhE

Regards
Nigel.

Re: Your Opinions on this Glider Near Crash!!

Posted: 03 Oct 2021, 18:56
by cstorey
Crikey ! they were lucky to ( largely) get away with that

Re: Your Opinions on this Glider Near Crash!!

Posted: 04 Oct 2021, 06:55
by FlyTexas
You'd think common sense would tell you to stay out of the clouds. The instructor seemed to be very quiet in the video...not instructing the student at all.

Brian

Re: Your Opinions on this Glider Near Crash!!

Posted: 04 Oct 2021, 08:38
by TSR2
Aside from the apparent stupidity of both (assuming the comments that the student was also a qualified pilot) I wasn’t aware that any aircraft didn’t have an artificial horizon.

Re: Your Opinions on this Glider Near Crash!!

Posted: 04 Oct 2021, 12:08
by Tomliner
If the video was uploaded by one or other of the pilots, unless it was as a warning to others, I can’t understand why they would publicise their mistakes so widely *-) EricT

Re: Your Opinions on this Glider Near Crash!!

Posted: 04 Oct 2021, 14:58
by Nigel H-J
After watching that video there were a number of stupid mistakes that could have ended in tragedy.

Firstly, you do not fly into IMC conditions if the glider or aircraft does not have artificial horizon or turn and bank indicator, just asking for trouble.

Secondly in the video there appeared to be clear weather to the right, the instructor should have told the front seater to fly in that direction.

When the incident unfolded at one point the instructor was heard to say where are we? :doh:

The instructor did not take full control of the incident as it was a case of me then you, probably due to the fact that the instructor would not have as good a view as the front seater or unless he was suffering spatial disorientation.

One thing for sure is that I would not fly with that instructor again!!
Aside from the apparent stupidity of both (assuming the comments that the student was also a qualified pilot) I wasn’t aware that any aircraft didn’t have an artificial horizon.
Hi Ben, there were a few gliders in my day 1970,s (unable to comment on the ones of today) where no artificial horizon or turn and bank indicator were present, although we had them in our gliders, very rarely were batteries installed to run them and just cannot now think back the fifty years why the hell we didn't put the batteries in during soaring conditions!! :dunno:

Regards
Nigel.

Re: Your Opinions on this Glider Near Crash!!

Posted: 04 Oct 2021, 16:40
by Scorpius
Just wait till our favourite flying instructor from Compton sees that!
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Dave will not be impressed.

Nev

Re: Your Opinions on this Glider Near Crash!!

Posted: 05 Oct 2021, 12:52
by Airspeed
From the start, I thought that over cloud was not a good place to be.
Maybe it was supposed to be a "bad situation training exercise" :dunno:
The instructor seemed to be disengaged until the feathers hit the fan.
Well, life is stranger than fiction. I can imagine, if that was in a TV drama, people would be screaming at the screen: "that couldn't happen!" etc

Re: Your Opinions on this Glider Near Crash!!

Posted: 05 Oct 2021, 13:06
by Nigel H-J
Just wait till our favourite flying instructor from Compton sees that!
:hide:
:rofl:

Re: Your Opinions on this Glider Near Crash!!

Posted: 05 Oct 2021, 14:11
by Motormouse
TSR2 wrote:
04 Oct 2021, 08:38
Aside from the apparent stupidity of both (assuming the comments that the student was also a qualified pilot) I wasn’t aware that any aircraft didn’t have an artificial horizon.
Not many gliders do Ben, for reasons of weight, the AH needs a motor ( or vacuum) driven gyro as a reference,
Gets complicated where to put the battery. Looks like they they were both concentrating on where the landing field was rather than looking out the front..Shouldn't have been that close to the clouds in first place.

ttfn

Pete