FSA Client 2.5.1 and MSFS2020

[TSR2]

Hi all, I've been trying again since I rebuilt the PC last month (fresh install of MSFS2020).

I had been having a problem where after installing FSUIPC, would only start from a warm boot so I would have to boot the PC, wait for it to start up and then restart it (warm boot) before the Sim would launch.

On the rebuilt PC I had avoided installing FSUIPC given the problems it had given me before, and everything was working really well, but I am still unable to use the FSA Client.

I downloaded FSUIPC this morning and I have it installed (but not set to automatically launch with the SIM as this is what has cause problems before). I'm clicking on the FSUIPC icon which then launches the SIM and everything starts up. The other Sim Connect programs work (such as FSLTL and LNM).

When I launch FSA, it starts fine and can see my booked flight, but doesn't see the sim running using Automatic, FSUIPC or Simconnect.
I do have the .net 2, 3 and 3.5 options installed.

Any ideas? Its not quite the same without FSA. Has anyone recently reinstalled the sim and using FSA?

Windows 11 (current updates), MSFS2020 SU10 (NOT Beta)

[Vc Ten]

Hi Ben
I think I've said before I don't use Fsuipc only using FSA standalone. I guess it works through simconnect How it finds simconnect I don't know. It must read it through the registry (it's not in the FSA folder.
I can post a shot of my FSA folder structure if it helps. My msfs is via the store, not steam if that makes any difference.
Dale

[TSR2]

Cheers Dale, that would be a big help. It’s just really odd when FSLTL and LNM work. I’ll try anything

Out of curiosity Dale, are you on Windows 11?

[Vc Ten]

No Ben, Win 10
Dale

[Vc Ten]

Showing my FSA Options

FSA1.png

(760.22 KiB) Downloaded 90 times

FS Airlines Folder

FSA2.png

(233.86 KiB) Downloaded 90 times

The only reference to simconnect in the registry

Registry2.png

(265.84 KiB) Downloaded 90 times

Doing a search for "simconnect" shows loads of locations in the computer. Within windows itself, MSFS, and several addons in the community folder.
As little nav maps and the traffic addon find it, its strange that FSA doesnt
See if you can find the FSA Debug file. Mine tells me the this :-
26.06.22 - 09:22:28 ----------------------------------
26.06.22 - 09:22:28 ---------FSAirlines Log-----------
26.06.22 - 09:22:28 ----------------------------------
26.06.22 - 09:22:28 - Version: v2.5.1
26.06.22 - 09:22:28 - Server: https://www.fsairlines.net
26.06.22 - 09:22:28 - Max Data: 32768
26.06.22 - 09:22:28 ----------------------------------
26.06.22 - 09:22:28 ----------------------------------
26.06.22 - 09:22:28 ----------------------------------
26.06.22 - 09:22:28 Init: FlightState
26.06.22 - 09:22:28 Init: CUserInterface
26.06.22 - 09:22:28 Init: Main
26.06.22 - 09:22:28 Init: CClientInterface
26.06.22 - 09:22:28 Init: CFlightSimulatorInterfaceUsingSdk
26.06.22 - 09:22:28 Debug: [CFlightSimulatorInterfaceUsingSdk] SimConnect.dll loaded
26.06.22 - 09:22:28 Debug: [CFlightSimulatorInterfaceUsingSdk] Successfully connected to FS via SimConnect
26.06.22 - 09:22:28 Init: CSound
26.06.22 - 09:22:28 Debug: [CSound] Sound directory: sound

Let us know how you get on
Dale

[TSR2]

Cheers Dale.

I've uninstalled FSA and removed all references to it from the registry, restarted.
Do you have .net framework 2.0 - 3.5 installed?

On the client install screen these are the options I'm taking (default program folder and the installer is run as administrator)

Also, when I start it, I have been starting the client after I have selected "ready to fly" and I'm actually in the cockpit.

fsainst1.jpg (36.75 KiB) Viewed 1689 times

I get this every time...

fsainst2.jpg (37.54 KiB) Viewed 1686 times

[Vc Ten]

Not sure about .net files, I'd have to check
The install checkboxes look OK There's not much in the way of options anyway
I start the client once in the cockpit. Any earlier sometimes gives wrong airport etc once you click fly
Have you found the debug file? Should tell you if its found simconnect
Dale

[TSR2]

Hi Dale,

Sorry, I completely forgot the Debug log. But here it is... Could it be because i have the SDK installed?

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06.11.22 - 20:41:49 ----------------------------------
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 ---------FSAirlines Log-----------
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 ----------------------------------
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 - Version: v2.5.1
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 - Server: https://www.fsairlines.net
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 - Max Data: 32768
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 ----------------------------------
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 ----------------------------------
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 ----------------------------------
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Init: FlightState
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Init: CUserInterface
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Init: Main
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Init: CClientInterface
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Init: CFlightSimulatorInterfaceUsingSdk
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Error: [CFlightSimulatorInterfaceUsingSdk] Required Version of SimConnect.dll not installed
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Delete: CFlightSimulatorInterfaceUsingSdk
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Init: CFsuipc
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Warn: [CFsuipc] Cannot link to FSUIPC or WideClient
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Init: CFlightSimulatorInterfaceUsingFsuipc
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Init: CSound
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Debug: [CSound] Sound directory: sound
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Debug: [CSound] Sound language: en
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Debug: [CSound] Sound enabled.
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Init: CCheatDetector
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Init: CBlackbox
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Debug: [CBlackbox] parse blackbox.xml
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Init: CReport
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Init: CFlightState
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Debug: [CSound] Sound disabled.
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Debug: [CUserInterface] Settings loaded: autologin=0 tracker=1 fsmessages=0 fuelmethod=0
06.11.22 - 20:41:49 Init: CClient
06.11.22 - 20:41:51 Debug: [CUserInterface] Button clicked: Login (ID=3)
06.11.22 - 20:41:51 Warn: [CFsuipc] Cannot link to FSUIPC or WideClient
06.11.22 - 20:41:53 Debug: [CUserInterface] Button clicked: Flight Information (ID=6)
06.11.22 - 20:41:53 Warn: [CFsuipc] Cannot link to FSUIPC or WideClient
06.11.22 - 20:41:54 Debug: [CUserInterface] Button clicked: Fly! (ID=8)
06.11.22 - 20:41:54 Warn: [CFsuipc] Cannot link to FSUIPC or WideClient
06.11.22 - 20:41:54 Warn: [CFsuipc] Cannot link to FSUIPC or WideClient
06.11.22 - 20:42:09 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20004ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:42:29 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20006ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:42:49 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20009ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:43:09 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20009ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:43:29 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20001ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:43:49 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20006ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:44:09 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20014ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:44:29 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20004ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:44:49 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20014ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:45:09 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20001ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:45:29 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20011ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:45:49 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20009ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:46:09 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20004ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:46:29 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20012ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:46:49 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20011ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:47:09 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20011ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:47:29 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20009ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:47:49 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20005ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:48:09 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20006ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:48:29 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20009ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:48:49 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20014ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:49:09 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20002ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:49:29 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20013ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:49:49 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20005ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:50:09 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20010ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:50:29 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20002ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:50:49 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20016ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:51:09 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20012ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:51:29 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20008ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:51:49 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20014ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:52:09 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20008ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:52:29 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20003ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:52:49 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20016ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:53:09 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20002ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:53:29 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20006ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:53:49 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20014ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:54:09 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20007ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:54:29 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20001ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:54:49 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20005ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:55:09 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20006ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:55:29 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20008ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:55:49 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20004ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:56:09 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20015ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:56:29 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20015ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:56:49 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20006ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:57:09 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20016ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:57:29 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20010ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:57:49 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20007ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:58:09 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20007ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:58:29 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20013ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:58:49 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20015ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:59:09 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20008ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:59:29 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20002ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 20:59:49 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20011ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 21:00:09 Warn: [CClient] Loop time: 20009ms / T1: 0 T2: 0 T3: 0 T4: 0
06.11.22 - 21:00:26 Debug: [CUserInterface] Button clicked: Fly! (ID=8)
06.11.22 - 21:00:26 Warn: [CFsuipc] Cannot link to FSUIPC or WideClient
06.11.22 - 21:00:26 Warn: [CFsuipc] Cannot link to FSUIPC or WideClient
06.11.22 - 21:00:26 Warn: [CFsuipc] Cannot link to FSUIPC or WideClient
06.11.22 - 21:00:27 Warn: [CFsuipc] Cannot link to FSUIPC or WideClient
06.11.22 - 21:00:28 Debug: [CUserInterface] Button clicked: x (ID=2)
06.11.22 - 21:00:28 Delete: CClient
06.11.22 - 21:00:28 Delete: Main
06.11.22 - 21:00:28 Delete: CCheatDetector
06.11.22 - 21:00:28 Delete: CUserInterface
06.11.22 - 21:00:28 Delete: CReport
06.11.22 - 21:00:28 Delete: CFlightSimulatorInterfaceUsingFsuipc
06.11.22 - 21:00:28 Delete: CFsuipc
06.11.22 - 21:00:28 Delete: CClientInterface
06.11.22 - 21:00:28 Delete: CFlightState
06.11.22 - 21:00:28 Delete: CSound
06.11.22 - 21:00:28 Delete: CBlackbox

[TSR2]

Tried again with the SDK uninstalled, but still no joy. I might try a rebuild again and not install the SDK as it may leave something behind in the Windows System area.

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06.11.22 - 22:28:08 ----------------------------------
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 ---------FSAirlines Log-----------
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 ----------------------------------
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 - Version: v2.5.1
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 - Server: https://www.fsairlines.net
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 - Max Data: 32768
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 ----------------------------------
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 ----------------------------------
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 ----------------------------------
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Init: FlightState
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Init: CUserInterface
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Init: Main
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Init: CClientInterface
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Init: CFlightSimulatorInterfaceUsingSdk
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Error: [CFlightSimulatorInterfaceUsingSdk] Required Version of SimConnect.dll not installed
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Delete: CFlightSimulatorInterfaceUsingSdk
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Init: CFsuipc
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Warn: [CFsuipc] Cannot link to FSUIPC or WideClient
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Init: CFlightSimulatorInterfaceUsingFsuipc
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Init: CSound
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Debug: [CSound] Sound directory: sound
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Debug: [CSound] Sound language: en
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Debug: [CSound] Sound enabled.
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Init: CCheatDetector
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Init: CBlackbox
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Debug: [CBlackbox] parse blackbox.xml
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Init: CReport
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Init: CFlightState
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Debug: [CSound] Sound enabled.
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Debug: [CUserInterface] Settings loaded: autologin=1 tracker=1 fsmessages=1 fuelmethod=0
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Debug: [CUserInterface] Button clicked: Login (ID=3)
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Warn: [CFsuipc] Cannot link to FSUIPC or WideClient
06.11.22 - 22:28:08 Init: CClient
06.11.22 - 22:28:10 Debug: [CUserInterface] Button clicked: Home (ID=4)
06.11.22 - 22:28:10 Debug: [CUserInterface] Button clicked: Options (ID=5)
06.11.22 - 22:28:11 Debug: [CUserInterface] Button clicked: Flight Information (ID=6)
06.11.22 - 22:28:12 Warn: [CFsuipc] Cannot link to FSUIPC or WideClient
06.11.22 - 22:28:13 Debug: [CUserInterface] Button clicked: Fly! (ID=8)
06.11.22 - 22:28:13 Warn: [CFsuipc] Cannot link to FSUIPC or WideClient
06.11.22 - 22:28:13 Warn: [CFsuipc] Cannot link to FSUIPC or WideClient
06.11.22 - 22:28:15 Debug: [CUserInterface] Button clicked: x (ID=2)
06.11.22 - 22:28:15 Delete: CClient
06.11.22 - 22:28:15 Delete: Main
06.11.22 - 22:28:15 Delete: CCheatDetector
06.11.22 - 22:28:15 Delete: CUserInterface
06.11.22 - 22:28:15 Delete: CReport
06.11.22 - 22:28:15 Delete: CFlightSimulatorInterfaceUsingFsuipc
06.11.22 - 22:28:15 Delete: CFsuipc
06.11.22 - 22:28:15 Delete: CClientInterface
06.11.22 - 22:28:15 Delete: CFlightState
06.11.22 - 22:28:15 Delete: CSound
06.11.22 - 22:28:15 Delete: CBlackbox

[Vc Ten]

Hmm I think that it's more to do with win 11 than anything else. The debug shows wrong version of simconnect dll A thread on FSA forum https://forum.fsairlines.net/viewtopic.php?f=86&t=10111 (maybe you've read it) Joe says simconnect works differently now (he says in Msfs) but as we know it works fine in win 10, so it could be the way it's handled in win 11/msfs Why little nav maps works
Maybe persevere with Fsuipc? I have the SDK installed without issues
Dale