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- Garry Russell
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Let's just say that where would have been no need for the marriage of McDD and Rolls-Royce products! As for not existing, the first prototype was under construction, although not quite at the "complete Mach 2 fighter sitting around in the hangar" claimed by some books; the centre and forward fuselage sections, the port wing (unskinned) and an unskinned tailplane were complete at the time of cancellation - unbelievably they are still in the RAF Museum reserve collection!!Garry Russell wrote:Thanks Toby
It looks quite big there, for a single seat fighter of the time that is.
Garry
Is it too late to change my vote DG?
AndyG
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Thanks chaps, I knew of that project but there had been no updates for a while but some new shots have been posted in the forumGarry Russell wrote:Hi CB
Someone is making an ATP
Don't remember who but he showed it on this forum a while back
Garry
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Link to ATP project
http://www.bsmp.co.nz/
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Dave,
My vote goes for the P1121. It represents 'what might have been' had the idiocy of the Duncan Sandys 1957 White Paper not occurred.
As Derek Wood's 'Project Cancelled' says, it was to all intents and purposes a 'British Phantom' multi-role heavy fighter and a worthy successor to the Hunter.
Had it been built, it would have kept Hawker building world-class fighters for many more years, most of them for export.
I can't find anything much to say favourable about the Belfast as a type - it was a failure :roll: .
If I had a second vote, it would be for an updated Lancaster, or, even better, a Wellington!
BTW, as to the P1121 parts in the RAFM collection, I recall seeing a large piece of P1121 lower fuselage at Cranfield in the early '70's - it was used as an example of design/construction for engineering students. The TSR-2 was also there then, together with much else that is now at Cosford - I suppose it all went to the RAFM as a package.
Kevin
My vote goes for the P1121. It represents 'what might have been' had the idiocy of the Duncan Sandys 1957 White Paper not occurred.
As Derek Wood's 'Project Cancelled' says, it was to all intents and purposes a 'British Phantom' multi-role heavy fighter and a worthy successor to the Hunter.
Had it been built, it would have kept Hawker building world-class fighters for many more years, most of them for export.
I can't find anything much to say favourable about the Belfast as a type - it was a failure :roll: .
If I had a second vote, it would be for an updated Lancaster, or, even better, a Wellington!
BTW, as to the P1121 parts in the RAFM collection, I recall seeing a large piece of P1121 lower fuselage at Cranfield in the early '70's - it was used as an example of design/construction for engineering students. The TSR-2 was also there then, together with much else that is now at Cosford - I suppose it all went to the RAFM as a package.
Kevin
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I wouldn't call the Belfast a failure, due only to it's exceptional cargo capacity.
10 Belfasts were made which means there were more Belfasts than P1121's. Therefore, the Belfast must have been more of a success than the P1121.
10 Belfasts were made which means there were more Belfasts than P1121's. Therefore, the Belfast must have been more of a success than the P1121.
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