Slingsby T67M 260 Firefly

ianhind · Post by **ianhind** » 15 Sep 2006, 14:05

"U.S. Air Force to destroy entire fleet of British-made Firefly training planes with deadly history"

Nice bit of unbiased and considered reporting :tuttut:

I will have to warn a colleague of mine who bought one (unintentionally?) from the RAF. He put in a low bid for the auction and won! The man from the RAF rang up and wanted to know when he could collect it.

http://www.btinternet.com/~calypsomedia ... ton/album/

AndyG · Post by **AndyG** » 15 Sep 2006, 14:17

JimCooper wrote:3 Crashes, 6 killed, all pilot error!!
Politics grounded the fleet.

Regards

Jim

Surely not Jim, I can't imagine the USA doing such a thing! And as for the suggestion that any USAF pilot would ever make an error!

I still can't quite believe that the EH-101 got the Marine One contract, AgustaWestland must employ better lobbyists than Sikorsky!!

AndyG

DispatchDragon · Post by **DispatchDragon** » 15 Sep 2006, 22:17

Its really simple

KCOS - Colorado Springs where the USAF Academy is - elevation
6187 amsl - average summer temp - 34C - Orginally the airforce academy
used the T41 (Cessna 172 with upgraded engine in 2 seat configuration)
for that very reason - So toss in a 200 pound instructor and a 200 pound student on a 34C day - AND the fact that the USAF uses low time instructors
and you have a recipe for accidents, the mere fact that the rate is so low
surprises me - maybe if they had operated the Firefly at somewhere closer to sea level -the problems would not have appeared.

Leif

Hot_Charlie · Post by **Hot_Charlie** » 15 Sep 2006, 23:17

DispatchDragon wrote:Its really simple

KCOS - Colorado Springs where the USAF Academy is - elevation
6187 amsl - average summer temp - 34C - Orginally the airforce academy
used the T41 (Cessna 172 with upgraded engine in 2 seat configuration)
for that very reason - So toss in a 200 pound instructor and a 200 pound student on a 34C day - AND the fact that the USAF uses low time instructors
and you have a recipe for accidents, the mere fact that the rate is so low
surprises me - maybe if they had operated the Firefly at somewhere closer to sea level -the problems would not have appeared.

Leif

and yet the relatives were happy to sue Slingsby for what was effectively the USAFs negligence/ineptitude. :roll:

Dyl Roberts · Post by **Dyl Roberts** » 01 Oct 2006, 22:00

Hi Guy's

Just a quick update on the T67M, thought I'd share some WIP shots with You.....

Still a Huge ammount of work to do on it, but it's comming along Niceley!!

Prop Annimation Next......

Post by **DaveB** » 01 Oct 2006, 22:02

That's looking really nice Dyl. I'm not normally one for this sort of aircraft but I'm warming to it nicely

ATB

DaveB :tab:

Dyl Roberts · Post by **Dyl Roberts** » 01 Oct 2006, 22:21

Hi Dave,

It's getting there, slowly ...........

I know this little plane isn't most peoples cup of tea, but it's a starting point for My modeling learning curve!!

I'll keep posting WIP shots when there's more to show!

Cheers.....

Post by **DaveB** » 02 Oct 2006, 00:08

'Getting there slowly' and 'Learning Curve' are two key points you made there Dyl. I appreciate (as you do) folk's enquiries can innocently put pressure on where none is required. The point is.. it will come when it's done and not before

ATB

DaveB :tab:

Post by **Garry Russell** » 02 Oct 2006, 00:20

That's coming on nicely Dyl and the type is one of those nice little recreational types.

As a change to pounding the airways of flying through the valley in a fast jet....it nice to have something like that to fly around quietly and admire any scenery that has been added on

Well done on that.

ATB

Garry