De Havilland Heron on AVSIM

Post by **Garry Russell** » 16 Nov 2006, 16:03

If not we'll have to send the boys around to ask him nicely

It can be withdrawn form those sites it the original authors ask it to be

The reputable sites that is.

Garry

jonesey2k · Post by **jonesey2k** » 16 Nov 2006, 16:28

Dare I say it? That doesnt look *too* bad.........
Id have the origional in a heartbeat though.

DispatchDragon · Post by **DispatchDragon** » 16 Nov 2006, 17:26

<--wandering in with his large wooden "persuader" - sum wun 'ere asked for da boyz????

Is this not a rehash of the Puerto Rican Heron that was around for 2002??
I looked at it yesterday but didnt download it - for basically the same reason as Garry - Ill wait for the real thing

(To paraphrase the Moody Blues - "I know its out there somewhere")

Nice catch Dave - Doug, Dinsdale, Spiny Norman and myself are ready to go visit the people wot dun this soon as you give us the nod...yeah?

Leif (The third Pirahana Brother)

ivanT3 · Post by **ivanT3** » 16 Nov 2006, 19:33

I down loaded it it and yep, It's the Dove panel alright. There's no pedestal pop up and it flys OK, I guess. It's getting the Delete treatment. I mean, If you're going to do one of these, while it's a LOT of work, I would think a panel would be in order? Has someone done a panel for this bird?

Anyhow, Off it goes.

Ivan.......................

ianhind · Post by **ianhind** » 17 Nov 2006, 09:37

Gone from Avsim

And the guy had released a Heron before so perhaps just an update for FSX and thrown in a panel and sounds.

Post by **DaveB** » 17 Nov 2006, 11:56

Hi Ian,

He's not replied to my email so perhaps thought it better to bite the bullet and fall on his sword. I really don't like having to pull folk up about this sort of thing but on the other side of the coin, I don't like our guy's being taken for granted either.
There are mechanisms available for 're-authors' to get in touch with at least one of the team involved and more often than not, we give a 'YES' to any request we receive.

Tks for the HU

ATB

DaveB :tab:

ianhind · Post by **ianhind** » 17 Nov 2006, 18:05

DaveB

I wasn't suggesting he was entitled to add in the panel :tuttut:

Just for everyone not to get excited about the appearance of a Heron.

Ian

Post by **DaveB** » 17 Nov 2006, 18:21

Hi Ian,

No.. I never assumed or thought that to be the case either

ATB

DaveB :tab:

johnhinson · Post by **johnhinson** » 10 Dec 2006, 07:00

DaveB wrote:
He's not replied to my email so perhaps thought it better to bite the
bullet and fall on his sword. I really don't like having to pull folk up
about this sort of thing but on the other side of the coin, I don't like
our guy's being taken for granted either.
There are mechanisms available for 're-authors' to get in touch with
at least one of the team involved and more often than not, we
give a 'YES' to any request we receive.
:tab:

Just to clarify the situation - the file was withdrawn from AVSIM
and Flightsim.com because I lodged a complaint. The panel
certainly contained parts of SAV's work but my concern was the fact
that this chap used a gauge from my own Heron panel that I
released some time back. The readme that accompanied this
panel expressly forbade re-use of that gauge (as it was a multiple
gauge incorporating, with permission, work by others) but it went on
to refer to a similar gauge that I would be releasing which could be
freely used.

I wrote to this chap to point out the reason his files had been
withdrawn and suggested he use this alternative gauge, because I
don't want to stifle his work - whether his model is good or bad is not
for me to say but I couldn't have built it myself so I must respect him
for that.

At the point when I wrote I had no idea whether his use of SAV's
work was with permission so I didn't get involved with that side of
things.

But, like you, no response has been forthcoming.

If he had been content to release the model and allow users to install
any existing available panel of their choice, the problem would bever
had arisen and those who want to fly a 2E Heron in Flight Simulator
would have the pleasure of doing so.

I have already indicated to him and to AVSIM and Flightsim that if
he complies with the above, I personally would not object to it being
re-uploaded for distribution.

I notice that he has previously posted on this forum - I hope he is
still here and reads this so that he can properly understand the
position.

John

Post by **DaveB** » 10 Dec 2006, 11:54

Tks John. I agree wholeheartedly with your comments

All it takes is a little thought doesn't it and many an unsavoury episode could be avoided :roll:

ATB

DaveB :tab: