TNT 737 EGBB Crash landing video

tonymadge · Post by **tonymadge** » 07 Dec 2006, 21:18

Thought this may be of interest, 15th June 2006 TNT 737 made a landing at EMA where it left its right gear in the grass after a failed attempt to land on the runway got airborne again and made its way to EGBB The Police helicopter was airborne on atask and filmed the landing at Birmingham. The film was given to the AAIB who have now let it be released. I got it onto the website before it went public. It shows the landing the firecrews attending and also you can see the damage to the fuselage on the starboard side behind the wing root this I assume was done on the landing at EMA...
Anyway here you go, operations/operational video and you will find it there
http://www.west-midlands.police.uk/airops

Post by **Garry Russell** » 07 Dec 2006, 21:26

Thanks for that Tony.

Not see a video of it before

I believe it is still stored at BHX in a damaged conditioN

Garry

Post by **DaveB** » 07 Dec 2006, 21:48

Yeh.. tks Tony

Nice bit of flying

ATB

DaveB :tab:

tonymadge · Post by **tonymadge** » 07 Dec 2006, 21:52

yes the EGBB flying was good but not the EMA

Garry your right the 737 was quickly painted white to obliterate the TNT markings and now sits on its remianing wheels and a jack! on the end of R06 It looks like write off, I heard a rumour that it was valued at 17Mill Euros and to repair 15 Mill. Odd thing is the engines are still on it, I was expecting it to be scrapped in situ or removed in bits for parting out. I doubt it will fly again looking at the damage to the wing root flaps and stress ripples on the fuselage, amazing it made it to EGBB as it was!

Post by **Garry Russell** » 07 Dec 2006, 22:03

Hi Tony

With that kind of damage and there being many just like it around it would seem no worth the repair which would in effect be a rebuild.

The damage is very deep seated with those incident and even if it were not that badly damaged it would still have to be rebuilt and bit's changed just because of the stresses.

I wonder if they ever thought of putting little wheels on the bottoms of the engines in case of this.

They had them on the Comet 4's wing pods. helps to keep them off the ground instead of sparking along the tarmac.

Garry

cstorey · Post by **cstorey** » 07 Dec 2006, 22:39

Well Tonks, I hesitate to disagree with you, but the EGBB flying (apart from a bit of pitch instability in the early stages of the film) was about as good as you can get. Having said that, I don't know yet what happened at EGNX as I have not yet seen the AAIB bulletin. Nonetheless, having had a personal experience, in command, of the men in silver suits hurtling down the runway after us ( it was 30.10.1976 which I have never forgotten because my first son was only 2 days old, and I remember thinking when we had the in flight fire that it was not a convenient time to be killed!) I found that the comforting thing was that training paid off and although it was alarming, we had not a vestige of panic

FWIW Chris

Post by **DaveB** » 08 Dec 2006, 01:24

Seems I dug myself into a hole there :shock:

I don't know what happened at EastMids or the circumstances of it losing a leg but the landing at Brum looked pretty good to me :think: Ok.. there was a short moment when one wing dipped (or was it the other lifted) but he kept it straight down the line and looked in about as much control as you can be resting on one engine :k:

As has already been mentioned, perhaps the circumstances that got him there in the first place was the faux pas.. I really don't know but from a publicans point of view, the Brum landing looked good. Just goes to show..

I'll leave you all to fit the unwritten bits in

ATB

DaveB :tab:

Post by **Garry Russell** » 08 Dec 2006, 01:35

Here is the gen

http://www.aaib.dft.gov.uk/publications ... oo_tnd.cfm

Garry

Post by **DaveB** » 08 Dec 2006, 01:47

Hi Garry,

I've not pulled the pdf and only read the summary (probably a mistake) and will not add to my obvious ignorance by commenting further. I suppose the obvious question is how late was 'late in the approach' when his AP disengaged then re-engaged again. How long does it take to decide that it's all gone to rats and the only sensible option is to hit the gas and get your butt out of there versus how long did he have to make that decision :roll:

I'd have switched 'detect crash and restart' off (if I'd have had the time) and landed heavy. We can afford it

ATB

DaveB :tab:

Post by **Garry Russell** » 08 Dec 2006, 01:59

And of there is always "p" while you have a think.

But it wouldn't happen if you just change the weather before a flight. :think: :dance:

I don't know enough about it to make a comment as such as I am not a pilot and was not there to see for myself.

But whatever the real reasons the situation must have looked very different to the guy sitting up front.

He did what he did for the reasons he did it and it is so easy to sit back now and judge it.

One thing for sure...I wouldn't like to fly a 737 or anything for that matter after the first attempt at a landing left major bits behind.

Garry