DM Trident Engine problem

fly60 · Post by **fly60** » 29 Mar 2007, 02:19

My sincere thanks to DM for this exceptionally freeware program of my favorite aircraft of all times. I have just started with this hobby so am very green and learning, so my apologies if this sounds a little silly. After just one perfect flight in the Trident from Larnaca to Izmir my problem started.
Ever since that original flight every time I take off and start the climb and reach around the 220kt all three engines shut down completely and would not relit for all the money in the world. Have to reset the flight and start allover..only to face the problem once again and again. I have checked all the manuals, re install, searched and searched but am now at a complete lost. Please HELP HELP if someone can. Otherwise I will just have to be content to just admire at my beloved Trident on the ground and nowhere to go, which is a shame in my books. :sad:
Many many thanks for all you wonderful people out there.

fighterpilot · Post by **fighterpilot** » 29 Mar 2007, 02:38

sounds like an engine overheat, check the gauges on the right side of the main panel, and reduce the throttle to keep the engines within there temperature limits and climb rpm. I have recently started to fly the trident, you'll find it great to fly.

Richard

DanKH · Post by **DanKH** » 29 Mar 2007, 08:40

Hello PG and welcome to the forum...Just a silly thought: Have engaged your Deicing?

Post by **Garry Russell** » 29 Mar 2007, 10:00

Hello Fly 60 and welcome

Given the time involved and the fact all three stop together does sound like overheating.

You can only briefly run them at full power and if you don't throttle back a bit you will burn them out and they won't re start as they a wrecked.

ATB

Garry

Post by **MALTBY D** » 29 Mar 2007, 10:41

Hi Fly60

Well, you learn something new every day. I forgot the Trident had engine destruction built in.

The chaps above are right, your engines must have failed due to overheat. Sounds like it could be hot where you are.

The engine temperature gauges have a red section marked on them and if you stray in there for too long, you pay big time.
In real life they would probably run a good while longer, but the engines would possibly be ruined and you'd likely be sacked. In FS you crash instead, which seems fair to me.

You can either monitor the temp yourself and throttle back to keep out of the red, or there is an automated system to do it for you.
Bottom three switches are engine 'Top Temp' and with these on you can't overheat.

There is also a water injection on the model. Not all Tridents had this, but it can help you out in hot weather. Switch it on and you can push the engines a bit harder for the same temperature.
It's far top right of the overhead in the VC, or included on the 'starter panel' in 2D view.

DM

fly60 · Post by **fly60** » 29 Mar 2007, 23:44

Talk about Red Faces :redface: Oh my goodness BEA would have had me out for public flogging for destroying 3 speys everytime Im out on a sortie...lol..
Thank you so much you guys out there for solving my kabumm..you were all spot on with the overheating. Thank you Richard, Garry and yes Dan the deicing was on...and ofcourse big thank you to the man himself Mr Maltby for taking the trouble and include pictures and explanations. This is more proof of the great job you have done and realism in reproducing the loving Trident.

Ok now I can go on and enjoy before I move on to the BAC1-11 and the VC 10..cant wait

Cheers :dance:

migman29 · Post by **migman29** » 10 Apr 2007, 20:43

fly60 if you use the a/p it'll set the engine rpm for you,to keep to 250kts below 10000, and your cruising speed above 10000.

The elastics won't overheat and break.

Do a search on these pages for the superlative "Autoland Tutorial" by Peter MClelland.
It gives you not only FULL instructions on how to autoland but a damn good insight to using the excellent autopilot.

Peter is the gentleman who did most of the beta and a/p testing for DM when he did the Trident Three.

Peter is an ex-Trident captain as well as an ex-RAF Venom pilot and aerobatic team member,so he's well versed in the Trident.

Persevere with her,fly her by the book and she'll do exactly what it says on the tin.

Miggers :-({|=

Post by **DaveB** » 10 Apr 2007, 21:20

Peter is the gentleman who did most of the beta and a/p testing for DM when he did the Trident Three.

Err.. I think not little puppy

Peter was certainly instrumental in seeing that the AP functioned correctly and likewise, that the instruments/switches were correct

A minor point but one worth correcting

ATB

DaveB :tab:

airboatr · Post by **airboatr** » 10 Apr 2007, 23:24

migman29 wrote:
Peter is the gentleman who did most of the beta and a/p testing for DM when he did the Trident Three.

Peter is an ex-Trident captain as well as an ex-RAF Venom pilot and aerobatic team member,so he's well versed in the Trident.

Persevere with her,fly her by the book and she'll do exactly what it says on the tin.

Miggers :-({|=

:huf: I believe thats what he was saying there....Pappy B

Post by **DaveB** » 11 Apr 2007, 00:37

Sorry Joe but I beg to differ. When you say someone is responsible for 'most of the beta and a/p testing'.. quote/unquote.. it suggests/insinuates that Peter did 'most of the beta and a/p testing'. In the words of a famous American President.. 'Read, My, Lips'

I don't want to take anything from Peter's input.. if you want to know how something worked, ask someone who used it!.. but I'm sure that Peter himself would agree that 'most of the beta and a/p testing' was not such a one man show as that statement suggests

ATB

DaveB :tab: