Anyone know of an on-line source of UK & european airways data?
My old RAF Flips from 1988 just don't cut it with the modern FMCs because someone has renamed all the airways. It's no longer R12 from CLN to REDFA anymore but L602 or something!
The on-line AIB is only airfield charts I think. Does anyone have any pointers to low & high alt on-route charts?
If you use FSNav you can turn the airways on, both low and high separately, and it has the airway titles appended. Mind you trying to figure out which title applies to which airway is quite difficult sometimes.
On the rare occasions I have had to deal with the Eurocontrol from this side of the pond (usually on delivery flights) I find the folks at IFPS Brussels so much easier to deal with the IFPS Paris but they do love their
bureacy dont they?
Leif -
Oh BTW the funniest taxiway nomenclature I have ever come across is
the paralell taxiway that connects to ALL the terminals at Atlanta Hartsfield
its called "dixie" anyone want to hazard a guess why?
Leif, their library looked promising but after much perusing I was still none the wiser
Kit, thanks for that, I had forgotten I had that installed :redface:
It certainly provides me with the names but I feel you can't beat a good simple map.
I also have the latest Airac for the FeelThere 737, maybe I should write a program to extract the airway data from the file and draw a map?
EGLL SID CPT UL9 KENET UN14 MEDOG UL18 DUB UM17 PIKIL NATF YAY J553 DICEN J568 YMX J588 ULAMO J488 ART J559 SYR J59 PSB J78 HVQ STAR KATL
How about that for Beauracy - Heathrow to Atlanta via the F track
not one airway on that side of the pond that I recognise from the
"old Days" PeterP where are you!!!!
Sitting here watching you give all the right answers, Leif! You're doing so well, I didn't think you needed me.
It was bad enough when we lost the colours in the airway names but to loose all our low numbers - which we acquired by (afaik) being the first country on this side of the Pond to introduce airways - was a real blow. The loss of Golf (originally Green) One a couple of years ago was particularly galling as this was the very first airway of all here which ran westwards from Woodley on the boundary of the long-defunct Metropolitan Control Area.
It was introduced to protect heavily-loaded and unmanoeuvrable transatlantic flights from the antics of those crazy young men whizzing around in their military jets! That purpose at least hasn't changed although there are an awful lot more transatlantic flights these days than there are military jets to get in their way!!!
PP
And IIRC Green 1 ran down to Dover from Woodley via Biggin Hill and Rochester - then on to Belgium. That was the route of the USAF C-130s on thier way to Frankfurt.
But many a happy Saturday I sat awaiting to see the early morning C-124 Globemaster inbound from the USA via Green 1.
Since it was travelling at FL80, it was just the controller I could hear until it got to Woodley (rather a long time after crossing Strumble in Wales!). Then it ventured Burnham, Watford, Brookmans Park, Braintree before leaving the airway for Mildenhall.
Somewhere between Burnham and Watford the large silver blob could be seen making it's slow progress across the sky. No wonder they had so many checkpoints - otherwise there would have been no contact with the C-124 for hours
Or at least start you in the right direction
