Classic AI Package Released

[tgibson]

Hi all,

Just thought I would post a note that the Classic AI package has been released. Thanks to all that beta tested it. You will need to download the files again, since there were changes in all of them. They are available on my AI Aircraft page. Sorry for the truncated images, I guess they're too wide for the forum.

There are improvements everywhere, but some I will highlight for you include an improved AI Comet with improved intake shape:



And similar improvements in the Caravelle:



We also have new aircraft like the Viking, Heron, and Carvair in the AI package, although the Carvair is just the Jon Walton aircraft as is. Rick Piper graciously allowed me to create a true AI Viking from his wonderful model though - thanks! And Dee Waldron provided me with many source files so I could improve them.

Here is the amazing variety of aircraft at Heathrow:



but you will find some gems tucked away in other spots, like Abidjan:



and Berlin has a new look with correct Deutsche Lufthansa liveries:



What, those don't look like Lufthansa? - it's the *other* one, in East Germany (before they changed their name to Interflug).

Enjoy,

[DaveB]

Hi Tom,

Not wanting to put a fly in the ointment.. we realised earlier from Dan's shots elsewhere that the Eagle Bermuda Viscount was inappropriate in appearing at Manchester. I see it in your lineup at Heathrow too :o

ATB

DaveB :tab:

[Nigel H-J]

Wow Tom that looks extremely good and will download tomorrow however, as I already have Tantris installed do I have to uninstall Tantris before using your A1 or is there a way to change over without having to go through the uninstall method? Also will I have to edit any AFCAD files for your A1 to work or is it already done? Sorry for the questions but not at all knowledgable with A1 packs.

Any help would be appreciated.

Regards Nigel.

[tgibson]

Hi,

I wanted to give Eagle some local UK traffic, and that's the Viscount livery I had. EDIT: I didn't realize this was a livery not used in Britain. Also,we can only paint so many. Sometimes substitutions are made because the correct aircraft or livery is not present. I believe the Avion Heathrow video shows an Eagle Viscount, albeit not in that paint scheme.

EDIT: This is a general statement, not aimed at Dave or any particular person: If anyone would like to point out errors *and* give concrete ways to fix them (not just say "this is wrong"), that would be great. Even better would be if someone would paint the proper livery and send it along. I will incorporate the changes and upload an updated traffic and/or aircraft file.

Nigel, the traffic package is set up this way. When you install them, you will add 4 layers to the Scenery Library: CalClassic Traffic 1957, CalClassic Traffic 1959, and CalClassic Traffic 1962. You will also add a CalClassic Core layer with all the AFCAD files. Whenever you want to see my traffic you will activate one of the Traffic layers, and the Core layer. If you don't want to see them, deactivate them. They will all be gone. As for your other addon traffic, you may need to rename their traffic bgl by adding .orig to the filename to deactivate it (them), if they are not found in a separate scenery layer (i.e. they are in the FS/Scenery/World/scenery folder). It's not too hard - I can help if you need it.

Hope this helps,

[DaveB]

Hi Tom,

I consider myself chastised! :roll: The irony is, of all the Eagle liveries that could have been painted, probably any one except Eagle Burmuda would have been appropriate!

Sri I'm not a painter Tom.. this wasn't a prerequisite of testing the AI as far as I'm aware. In the absence of any other Eagle liveries for that particular model, the only suggestions I can make are a) to put up with it or b) edit the traffic file and substitute that model for one of Rick's with a suitable Garry Russell paint.

DaveB :tab:

[RAF_Quantum]

Hi,

I've got the beta pack installed as of yesterday :roll: so will go grab these new files. The only thing that I haven't done which I am wary of is add the afcads to postdate the airports and remove some of the more modern airports. I didn't really want to remove any airports as some I still want to fly to. What is the best way round this to still use the Classic AI traffic.

Rgds

John

[DaveB]

Hi John..

I tried to reply to this earlier but the 'POST A REPLY' screen wouldn't draw. I saw Tom was up so presumed he'd answer in the fullness of time. Apparently not! :roll:

If you want to leave your current airports as they are, you can totally disregard the AFCAD's. The Classic AI will use parking as appropriate to the AFCAD's you already have ;-) As noted in the install instructions.. both the AFCAD's or EDITVOICEPAK parts of the download are 'Optional'. I've not installed either and mine works fine.

ATB

DaveB :tab:

[tgibson]

Hi Dave,

My "fullness" is just a little longer than yours. xwink

Actually, I've been to two Christmas parties. xsmile

Dave, please don't think of my response as "chastisement". I wasn't talking about you specifically, but in general terms. I should have been much clearer in my word choices - sorry.

I knew very little about the UK airline system of the 50's and 60's before I started this upgrade, and people like you, FSAviator, Richard Wright and others have been really helpful in my education. I didn't know that the Eagle livery we have was only used on the Bermuda routes, for example - it was never seen in England? I didn't know that. I will put a proper Eagle Viscount livery on my long term to do list. For now I will remove the Eagle Viscount flights in the UK.

I *do* want you all to point out errors, because that's the only way I can learn. I just need as much information as possible - something like "The Eagle Viscount livery seen in your Heathrow picture was only used on the Bermuda routes - the best livery to use in Britain would be a modifcation of Rick's xxx livery available in his xxx package. It would have been seen at Heathrow (and Ringway) from about 1961 through 1963. Before that they used xxx's, and after that the airline was renamed xxx."

And Dave is correct - if you want to stay with modern airports, you do not have to install the AFCAD or the EVP package. But keep in mind that all the AFCAD's are stored in my CalClassic Core folder (and scenery layer), so it is as easy as unchecking that layer in the Scenery Library to revert to your modern AFCADS in the Addon Scenery folder, default versions, or whatever else.

For the EVP package, just avoid installing the new airport names (Idlewild, Sacramento, etc.) and you will be fine - all the others do is add additional callsigns to your voicepack - this will not affect modern traffic at all. You install those one by one, so you make the choice. The installer just copies the EVP import files to your hard drive for you to use.

Thanks for your help,

[DaveB]

Hi Tom

Christmas parties already??? :o Silly question really as we've held enough here in the past 3 weeks (though why anyone would want a christmas party in November is beyond me) :roll:

It's really great to see Eagle represented Tom, especially the Vikings so I have no issues there ;-) Unfortunately, there is only one Eagle paint available for the AI Viscount (though loads for the original Viking) and this is the one.. probably one of 2 that never operated in this country (the UK that is). Eagle bought 2 800's and both were used on the Bermuda sector (and only for a very short time) before being sold, resold e t c. Best option as far as I can see to keep any Viscount inline with that particular Viking would be to go for a Cunard Eagle 700 (which is what I've since done with mine). The Eagle Bermuda Viscount 800 and Cunard Eagle Viking are not really from the same timeline and this, as much as the Bermuda registration, makes it stand out like a sore thumb. For sure, a very easy mistake to make, or presumption for that matter ;-) Unless you're dead set on removing it (for the sake of accuracy).. it could be argued that 1 wrong Eagle Viscount is better than no Eagle Viscounts at all. Why not leave as is and keep it on the long term 'to do' list ;-) . You never know.. I may blow the dust off my brushes and attempt to give the 800 a new set of clothes. I'll put that on my long term 'to do' list too!

ATB

DaveB :tab:

[Nigel H-J]

Mental Health Warning!!

Before offering any advice or help I cannot be held responsible for your sanity afterwards. Assist at your own risk!! :roll:

Right then, I have now downloaded A1 A2 A3 A4 A5 A6 A7 and A9

From these I see that they are all self installers (That is half the problem solved) now I will be removing Tantris tomorrow but just need some help installing Toms' A1. Like John, I do not want to lose any of my airports or have them changed.

If you want to leave your current airports as they are, you can totally disregard the AFCAD's. The Classic AI will use parking as appropriate to the AFCAD's you already have As noted in the install instructions.. both the AFCAD's or EDITVOICEPAK parts of the download are 'Optional'. I've not installed either and mine works fine

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because I presently have Tantris on and when I uninstall it does that affect the AFCAD file aleady on for Tantris? If so, do I have to re-install the FS9 one?

Sorry about this but I do not have a clue when it comes to setting up A1 traffic, as for Tantris that was straight forward just like installing DMs' aircraft.....It is all done for you.

Again sorry if my questions sound stupid.

Nigel.