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Viscount Loading

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Commencing flight training on the Viscount hopefully tomorrow, when selecting the Viscount through the a/c menu and it loads up I notice that when selecing fuel (not flying VA) I get a warning that it is overweight, reducing the fuel loading to 70% overcomes this problem however, in the cfg file the (I presume) seating is set at something like 300Lb? The question is do I alter these figures to give a lower weight so that it is within limits or will Flynet set the configuration dependant on the amount of fuel loaded?

Any advise given will be acted upon. :lol:

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Hi Nigel,

FlyNET is unable to alter the payload, just the fuel. If your fuel load requirement on FlyNET will make you overweight I would suggest you manually remove the payload.

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Many thanks John, will do that.

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Nigel..

A lot of models load 'overweight' as flightsim is unable to load anything other than full tanks.. you probably don't notice :) The simple act of doing a flight in FlyNET will remove that problem immediately as you're rarely going to fly with full tanks on the Viscount. FlyNET see's what is loaded in the aircraft (what was left onboard the aircraft after it's previous flight) on it's database.. so regardless of how much fuel you have onboard when you open it up.. FlyNET will adjust it to what was left plus whatever you add ;-)

Make sure you read the Viscount/Vanguard instructions with regard to flying on FlyNET. Inter-Engine cocks have to be opened and boost pumps closed. Do this first (and in that order) to avoid having engines 1 and 4 cut after FlyNET has loaded fuel. If you fly from A to B then on to C or back to A again.. you only have to do this procedure once. The return or onward flights will be fine.. unless of course you close down the sim before making the return/onward flight ;-)

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Many thanks Dave, will leave the default payloads as they are then.

Also thanks for the advice on the fuel loading, I take then that once the fuel has been loaded by flynet then the boost pumps can be, if required, set back on.

Will take a read on instructions prior to flying.

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Hi Nigel..

Well.. it's 6 of one.. half a dozen of another mate. Real World fuel loading would put equal amounts of fuel in each tank and any extra would be put into the inner tanks. FlyNET loads the inners first and moves outward if the fuel requirement is more. If it IS more.. engines 1 and 4 will not cut and you can continue on your way with the minimum of fuss ;-) You will NOT.. to the best of my knowledge.. have an engine out situation by running the outers dry in flight as the fuel demand is continuous so the inners will takeover automatically. I've never had this happen anyway :)
What the model doesn't like is having fuel in the outers then suddenly no fuel in the outers which is what happens when FlyNET loads fuel so if you start with engines running, to pre-empt the 'engine out'.. open the inter-engine cocks (on the pedestal) then close the outer boost pumps (lower right panel) FIRST. Of course.. if you start from cold.. this hardly matters though the inter-engine cocks and boost pumps will still have to be operated to enable fuel to get to the outer engines ;-)

It all sounds kinda complicated but it isn't really and once you've done it a couple of times.. you know what to expect and it stops embarrassing situations where you're 'live' on FlyNET and stuck on the end of the runway with only 2 engines running and can't start the outers :) I can't remember off the top of my head if crossfeed is required on the Viscount but my guess is that it's not. Crossfeed is only used if you get a fuel imbalance (which you will NOT get unless FlyNET induces an engine failure) and should this unlikely event happen.. you can either sit tight and put up with it or manage the fuel by opening X-FEED and turning off the boost pumps from the 'light' side until the fuel remaining is equal. Neither the Viscount or Vanguard are able to transfer fuel so crossfeed is the only way out of a fuel imbalance situation.

Re the boost pumps..
All these do is pump fuel from a tank to an engine. In a 'normal' situation.. (make that real world).. tank 1 will feed engine 1.. tank 2 will feed engine 2 e t c. If you have no fuel in tank 1 or 4 (which is a likely startup scenario in FlyNET unless you are travelling a distance requiring more fuel than can be carried in tanks 2 and 3).. you open the inter-engine cocks and close the outer boost pumps to allow engines 1 and 4 to draw fuel from the inner tanks. You turn the outer boost pumps off to stop them pumping air. No fuel.. no boost pumps ;-)

Good ere innit! :rock:

Should you decide at some point to take the Vanguard on.. exactly the same applies ;-)

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Good ere innit!
:lol: :lol: :lol: Sure is!!!

To be honest, flying the Viscount and managing fuel as you have informed is highly enjoyable, gets the grey cells to work that bit harder!! :lol:

On my way to Dyce as I type, nearly there which will be followed by a return to EGLL. Just do not know why I have left it so late on to fly this aircraft, really love it!!! :dancer: As for the Vanguard that will no doubt come in the near future but at the moment just want to fly and enjoy this a/c in the meantime.

Many thanks also for the fuel management info, have printed it out and will study until I can recite it.

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You're very welcome Nigel ;-)

It's a much more enjoyable experience having even a modicum of knowledge on how the systems work and you also begin to appreciate just how much realism Fraser built into these panels without making them ridiculous. There's enough there to keep you occupied without you having to complete a 2 week ground course :cpu:

I just left Dyce btw. Now at Glasgie so if you noticed a Herald go whizzing past in the opposite direction.. you know who it was :lol:

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Sorry, missed it!! Flying with my head in the cockpit.

It never ceases to amaze me how Frazer and the other guys here actually manage to re-create the flight decks and instruments with such precision, and to get them to work so accurately. Wonderful.

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