Some classics of Cosford before the cull

[Chris558]

...albeit only the ugly ones are still in existance

Garry

I didn't think there were any Mk.32's still in existance?

[VEGAS]

G-APFJ was also a little honey. I have (or had) a special place in my heart for her.

She was so clean and proud looking.

On the day this photo was took, she looked so clean and prepared. Almost as if you could instantly board her and she would take you to JFK no problem. :-( :-( :-(

You would never guess she was a museum piece from my picture.

[airboatr]

Thanks for posting Eddie.

[Garry Russell]

...albeit only the ugly ones are still in existance

Garry

I didn't think there were any Mk.32's still in existance?

The 32 were ugly........the others were embarrasing

Garry

[speedbird591]

... Almost as if you could instantly board her and she would take you to JFK no problem...

From your comment, Eddie, I suspect you've never flown to New York on a 436

I think you'll find that most ex crew would rather see it in a museum

Fantastic pictures, though. Thanks very much for showing them.

Ian

[VEGAS]

Eddie, I suspect you've never flown to New York on a 436

I think you'll find that most ex crew would rather see it in a museum
Ian

Never been to New York ever Ian.

There's obviously a story there. Do tell. :think:

[speedbird591]

There's obviously a story there. Do tell. :think:

Probably - but I've forgotten it!

Nothing personal about Foxtrot Juliet! My logbook tells me that I only flew on her three times during the years from 72 to 77 before I got bored with recording that sort of stuff It's 436s in general!

I used to dread turning up at the airport and seeing a 707-436. They seemed underpowered and the Conways always sounded as though they were being tortured to death just to keep it moving! They were very 'agricultural' in the sense that they were engineered like a Massey Ferguson and handled in much the same way. The cabin was also very noisy and the ride was awful. They wallowed about like an old sailing ship and experiencing turbulence in the tail of one could be the most frightening experience you can imagine. The tail could whip from side to side and up and down with a physical stop and a loud bang at the end of the swing. Some of the catering equipment was stored in large plastic bins on shelves just forward of the rear galley and (usually) restrained by webbing. I remember once being strapped in at the back and seeing four of these trays fly sideways out into the aisle, stop, then fly up and hit the ceiling and crash down onto the floor breaking about 100 glasses.

What's that expression? Felt like a million components flying in close formation.

At the same time, the engines are screaming and bouncing from side to side and the wings are flapping up and down and the fuselage twisting and grinding. Passengers are screaming and vomiting and the crew aren't much better, either :roll: The take off roll when fully laden was a life changing event on it's own. All that noise and smoke and it seems to take for ever rumbling and lurching and wallowing down the runway before reluctantly being heaved off the ground. Plenty of time for your past life to flash before your eyes and turn to religion in the hope that praying might extend the runway to at least 10 miles long.

By contrast, the 336 with the Pratt and Whitneys was quite a different beast. The extra power was delivered more smoothly and quietly and seemed to drive the airframe rather than the other way round It goes without saying that neither of them could match the Queen of the Skies!

Ian

[Garry Russell]

Otherwise OK??

Garry

[DaveB]

That's one of the funniest things I've read in ages Ian

ATB

DaveB :tab:

[speedbird591]

Otherwise OK??

Oh yes, pretty much! ;-)