Renault have been given a two year suspended ban by the FIA only because Flavio Briatore and Pat Symonds resigned from the team.
The team’s former managing director Flavio Briatore has been handed a life-time ban from all FIA sanctioned events, while ex-engineering chief Pat Symonds banned for five years.
I am becoming extremely disillusioned with F1 racing to the point where I am no longer interested in supporting any driver or watching any race!! F1 being the icon of all motor racing is slowly digging itself a hole so big that it could lose a lot of support and more importantly....trust!!
Nigel.
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F1 - Your Views.
I used to be an optimist but with age I am now a grumpy old pessimist.
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I stopped watching it a long time ago, pretty much with the end of the Mansell / Senna / Murray Walker era. It used to be a terrific Sunday afternoon's entertainment, but doesn't do anything for me now. In fact, as I get older, I'm finding it increasingly difficult to get enthusiastic about anything.
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WhisperJet
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Me too but I'm thinking of starting all over again!Paul K wrote:I stopped watching it a long time ago
For me last week's F1 headline wasn't about bloody Renault...
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/moto ... 87862.html
,Nick
Noise Abatement? Never.
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The Ban seems fair, but I think they need to stop changing the rules every year, its a pain in the arse. Started to get back into F1 again this year since the BBC got it back. The coverage is far superior to ITV, but the sport as a whole has become so risk averse, part of the attraction years ago that it was at least a bit risky. Now there are so many rules its difficult to follow, but I believe there is no refueling next year, which is brilliant. Back to the days of fill her up and race to the end (tires permitting). We may yet see sceens similar to Mansell giving Senna a lift back :-)
Re the lotus announcement, This is indeed great news, but alas its Lotus in name only, with all of the car development and building being moved to the far East year after next, so while I'm happy the name will live on, it won't be British in any sense.
Re the lotus announcement, This is indeed great news, but alas its Lotus in name only, with all of the car development and building being moved to the far East year after next, so while I'm happy the name will live on, it won't be British in any sense.
Ben.
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When McLaren were found guilty of commercial espionage they got slammed financially to the tune of $35million lots of slapped wrists and constructors points deducted. Quite rightly so, cheating is just not on.
So when Renault instruct their driver to deliberately crash his car and risk his life, and possibly others like marshalls and spectators, is it a right and fair 'punishment' to get a suspended sentence? The fact that 'Renault supply engines to other F1 teams and employ loads of people in France' as reported on the BBC, does not make it right that they walk away from this so easily. All this does is show that crime does pay - and cheating at this level of sport is criminal.
I think that F1 has done itself no favours and this last fiasco has just done more to F1 motorsport than anything else.
Allan
So when Renault instruct their driver to deliberately crash his car and risk his life, and possibly others like marshalls and spectators, is it a right and fair 'punishment' to get a suspended sentence? The fact that 'Renault supply engines to other F1 teams and employ loads of people in France' as reported on the BBC, does not make it right that they walk away from this so easily. All this does is show that crime does pay - and cheating at this level of sport is criminal.
I think that F1 has done itself no favours and this last fiasco has just done more to F1 motorsport than anything else.
Allan
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They should be jailed for endangering life
As for F1.typical of high monied sport losing touch with reality
Garry
As for F1.typical of high monied sport losing touch with reality
Garry
Garry
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"In the world of virtual reality things are not always what they seem."
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Nice to see that, Nick, but still not enough to tempt me back, I'm afraid. Thanks for the info though !WhisperJet wrote:Me too but I'm thinking of starting all over again!Paul K wrote:I stopped watching it a long time ago
For me last week's F1 headline wasn't about bloody Renault...
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/moto ... 87862.html
Nick
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There was one crumb of comfort at least - Piquet was not in danger of suffering brain damage in the crash, since plainly there is no brain present in his cranium
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"Well timed" with most of the pundits heading for airports to fly out to Singapore.....
Punishments (and I think it was $100m but lets not argue over small change
) are far too arbitrary and seem too closley linked to how much Max Moseley dislikes the perpetrator.
Max is all too keen to turn F1 into a spec Formula like Formula Ford++. We even had an announcement over the weekend that the engine manufacturers can get together and equalise the engine performances before next year - by detuning the most powerful engines back to the performance levels of the weaker designs.
The new rule that teams can only use eight engines in a season looks like turning the last four races into endurance events, and could eliminate the Red Bulls from the run-in to the championship. So much for being the peak of motor sport.
As for holding races in the Far East for commercial reasons (the governments pay the rights holders more than is economically feasible for the honour of staging an event), while forcing the events to be run in the monsoon part of the early evening to suit European TV schedules (because Europe is still where the fan base is and therefore sponsors demand that we see the races when most European people are awake
), you end up with the predicted farce in Malaysia where the race had to be abandoned.
And of course the whole Singaporean face would not have happened if the new circuits were not all designed by Hermann Tilke and seem to make overtaking almost impossible.
Apart from that, couldn't be better.
Punishments (and I think it was $100m but lets not argue over small change
) are far too arbitrary and seem too closley linked to how much Max Moseley dislikes the perpetrator. Max is all too keen to turn F1 into a spec Formula like Formula Ford++. We even had an announcement over the weekend that the engine manufacturers can get together and equalise the engine performances before next year - by detuning the most powerful engines back to the performance levels of the weaker designs.
The new rule that teams can only use eight engines in a season looks like turning the last four races into endurance events, and could eliminate the Red Bulls from the run-in to the championship. So much for being the peak of motor sport.
As for holding races in the Far East for commercial reasons (the governments pay the rights holders more than is economically feasible for the honour of staging an event), while forcing the events to be run in the monsoon part of the early evening to suit European TV schedules (because Europe is still where the fan base is and therefore sponsors demand that we see the races when most European people are awake
), you end up with the predicted farce in Malaysia where the race had to be abandoned.And of course the whole Singaporean face would not have happened if the new circuits were not all designed by Hermann Tilke and seem to make overtaking almost impossible.
Apart from that, couldn't be better.