sidebyside message

[alan cottrill]

Hi All.
Due to an accident at work,on the 16/10/09,i have been unable to work,or to do any flight simming,and untill the cast comes of my broken right wrist,i decided to load a driving sim into my computer yesterday.
The program called RACE ON,when loading into my computer,caused a few messages to come up,which indicated i was missing some files.
On looking up in my computer/cntrl pnl/admin tools/event viewer/system,the sidebyside message was showing.
On checking this message,it refers to microsoft VC80.CRT.
When i looked in windows system under winSxS,i could see both VC80.CRT and VC90.CRT,i know my flight sims work,so they as far as i know use VC90.CRT.
On looking for any differencies between them,i noticed that in x86_microsoft,VC90.MFCLOC i have 11 files,but in the VC80.MFCLOC i have 9 files.
the version i have is:-x86_Microsoft.VC80.MFCLOC_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.42_x-ww_3415f6d0.
My operating system is win XP with SP2 updates,if anyone has the same windows setup,could you please see how many files you have in there,if its 9,then i know i am not missing any,if its 11 files,then the ones most likly to by missing will i assume be labled the same as in VC90,which should be something like this:-MFC80ESN.DLL and MFC80RUS.DLL.
I cannot seem to find the VC80.CRT file on the MICROSOFT download site,which is where i got my VCREDIST_86 zip from,for the VC90.CRT sidebyside error message i was getting,this is to do with visual C++ 2008 redistributable setup.
Any help would be greatfully received.
regards alan.

[Garry Russell]

Hi Alan

Sorry to read about the wrist

I have three of theose folders one of which has the same follow on code as the one you give.....that and the other two each have nine files in the folders

ATB

Garry

[speedbird591]

Sorry about the wrist, Alan. I haven't got the faintest idea what you're talking about but googled sidebyside as I didn't know what a sidebyside error was

Google threw up this forum question about VC80 and the answer referred to downloading C++2005 Redist package which solved the guy's problem. I don't know if it helps but I though I'd mention it anyway.

http://forums.primopdf.com/showthread.php?t=1146

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en

I'm still none the wiser about a sidebyside error

Ian

[alan cottrill]

Hi Guys.
Thanks for the replies,speedbird591 the sidebyside message was new to me,when i loaded the PMDG J41 into FSX,and i could not get it to work,or register the install,this was cured by installing the VC90.CRT redist zip file,it is a programe that i believe is to do with getting the game to talk to the video drivers,to get the graphics to work correctly,i am guessing on this,as its all greek to me to.
As for the accident at work,you would not beleive just how i managed that,my foot slipped,and i just put my hand out to stop my fall,and i must have just put my hand at the wrong angle,and it broke my wrist in to places,i had an op to fit a metal plate on monday,the op took 4 hours,from taking me from my bed and back to my bed,dont know how long i was in the recovery room,trying to use a mouse,with a cast on,is to say the least difficult,but i can now us the mouse for about 1 hr at a time now,before i need a rest,i hope i can begin simming soon,as i am getting withdrawal symtoms.
I will have a look to see if i can find that file on ms site,and see if it helps or not.
regards alan.

[ianhind]

Can't solve the problem but my understanding of sidebyside is that is an attempt by Micosoft to get rid of DLL hell - trying to avoid the problems caused by different versions of a DLL scattered about by programs on installation. Clearly it causes problems of its own because now it knows what it wants but can't find it. Previously it would have used what was available and crashed anyway

My own experience of sidebyside problems was some time ago installing Photoshop CS3 (or was it CS?) when SxS errors kept occurring with Windows crashing. I fixed it somehow - had to since it was for my wife - but can't remember how. Probably various incantations, etc

Ian

[DanKH]

Actually you should go here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/r ... pe=s_basic

first identify which version of the C++ redistributional the program is looking for, as there are several versions (hence the side-by-side set-up)

(The error messages may indicate precisely which version it needs....)

VC80 refers to version 8.x ... VC90 refers to version 9.x etc. etc... (the various version of the Developer tool: Microsoft Visual Studio)

If you have a 32bit O/S you should select the x86 versions and likewise if you have a 64bit O/S you should select the x64 versions

Problem is, that some developers includes the redistributable version of the C++ library that they have used during their development, others don't ...

so you might end up with a sh!tload of various versions of both VC80, VC90 and even VC50 ... but that is how it goes...

[Garry Russell]

Hi Dan

Last line of your post.......

Is that then why when I looked I had three folders of that name but with a diffeent code following the name??.

Garry

[DanKH]

probably yes ....

But never mind... if it's needed, it's needed ... it's much worse if it's needed and it isn't present :-)

they do not take up that much space if I remember correctly...

Btw. this is not only for the C++ library ... this functionality could easily go for a number of other libraries ... e.g. is FSUIPC which works in a similar mode...

[Garry Russell]

Ok Dan

So nothing to be concerned about


Cheers

Garry

[DanKH]

Nope, nothing to be concerned about, only if you get the sxs ERRORs (mind you, you CAN get a lot of WARNINGS) but that's a bug in the sxs search code, that tells you more or less:

I found this one which is not the version I'm looking for, I'll continue my search
I found this one which is not the version I'm looking for, I'll continue my search
I found this one which is not the version I'm looking for, I'll continue my search
I found this one which is not the version I'm looking for, I'll continue my search
I found this one which is not the version I'm looking for, I'll continue my search
Ah.. here it is .. nothing to worry about ...



You might have wanted the developer to only shout if it couldn't be found ... but hey, nobody's perfect, and even the developers at MS are only humans :-)