FS2004 L-188 Electra
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Re: FS2004 L-188 Electra
One thing to note - FS2004 does not properly handle the constant speed, geared turbine of the Allison 501 properly. Thus, the reason for JR originally using "Jet" as his type. It was much easier to get the correct performance out of the engines and aircraft and to get the gauges to read properly. This is a problem that all aircraft with turboprops have, and the only way to fix it is to have a gauge (a-la FSKBT, CalClassic & CaptainSim) to externally control the engine performance. I would look at the CalClassic CV-580 package if you want to see about maybe adapting its gauge and engine specs to the L-188 as they use similar versions of the engines.
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Re: FS2004 L-188 Electra
HI CH
The errors I mentioned were all external model shape issues
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The errors I mentioned were all external model shape issues
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Re: FS2004 L-188 Electra
CH
The sound set you want is -- 580sound.zip at Flightsim.........there is also an upgrade for it I believe at Flightsim
its originally sampled from a 580 but sounds very prototypical -- funny how the Grinder and the Hercules have the same
powerplant but sound totally different.
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The sound set you want is -- 580sound.zip at Flightsim.........there is also an upgrade for it I believe at Flightsim
its originally sampled from a 580 but sounds very prototypical -- funny how the Grinder and the Hercules have the same
powerplant but sound totally different.
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Re: FS2004 L-188 Electra
They have a distinct mourneful whine.....Is it blower or something?
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Re: FS2004 L-188 Electra
Hmmm... All good advice here. I have enough to keep me busy this weekend.
Certainly it seems that turboprop engines were a bit of an afterthought in FS2004. I'll have a look at the CalClassic CV-580 and see what can be done.
I do have the 580sound, but I think I'll take another listen. I was going to experiment with Hercules sounds as well.
Thanks all.
Certainly it seems that turboprop engines were a bit of an afterthought in FS2004. I'll have a look at the CalClassic CV-580 and see what can be done.
I do have the 580sound, but I think I'll take another listen. I was going to experiment with Hercules sounds as well.
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Re: FS2004 L-188 Electra
I hear an Electra every week and I can confirm they sound nothing like Hercules
Not in the air at least
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Re: FS2004 L-188 Electra
It's due to the props mostly. Most L-188's had the Constant Width, Square Tip Aeroproducts prop on them (same as the CV-580). The C-130s and P-3's all had Ham-Stan curved tip, "paddle blade" props.DispatchDragon wrote:CH
The sound set you want is -- 580sound.zip at Flightsim.........there is also an upgrade for it I believe at Flightsim
its originally sampled from a 580 but sounds very prototypical -- funny how the Grinder and the Hercules have the same
powerplant but sound totally different.
Leif
In addition, the 501D was flat rated to 4000HP in the -13 (CV-580) and 4200 HP in the -22 (L-188) while the T56 was flat rated to 4600HP in the P-3 and C-130.
Also, the exhaust differences contribute some to the difference. In the C-130, the exhaust is right at the back of the engine. In the L-188, P-3, and CV-580, they're much further back in a long nacelle.
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Re: FS2004 L-188 Electra
How is 30 odd thousand RPM getting the gauges to read correctly?It was much easier to get the correct performance out of the engines and aircraft and to get the gauges to read properly.
The Allison 501D-13 constant speeds at 13500-14000 turbine RPM in the flight range, with power settings based on the horsepower outpt and turbine inlet temperature.
Think I might have a shot at this one as I have a soft spot for this power house of a beast
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Re: FS2004 L-188 Electra
Ohhhhhh
Fraser -- Of you do -- I need a CamAir "Grinder"
I have the Teeshirt already that says Electra Flight Engineers watchs TITS............Ok everyone stop smirking -- its Turbine Inlet Tempratures -- and the magic number is 751
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I have the Teeshirt already that says Electra Flight Engineers watchs TITS............Ok everyone stop smirking -- its Turbine Inlet Tempratures -- and the magic number is 751
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Re: FS2004 L-188 Electra
Fraser,
That would be great! I've always had a soft spot for the L-188 too
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Scott
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That would be great! I've always had a soft spot for the L-188 too
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