T-38 Talon

ukmil · Post by **ukmil** » 17 Feb 2010, 18:10

Not British, but a classic

out soon

Techy111 · Post by **Techy111** » 17 Feb 2010, 23:01

Looks a nice job there Gaffer...You going all foreign on us mate....

Tony

Chris Trott · Post by **Chris Trott** » 17 Feb 2010, 23:56

Ohh, great.

Post by **Garry Russell** » 18 Feb 2010, 08:28

A few will be waiting to get their claws into that one

Herkpilot · Post by **Herkpilot** » 21 Mar 2010, 05:38

I have many fond (and a few frightening) memories of my 100 or so hours flying the T-38. After the Cessna T-37 it was like moving into Formula 1 from a small under powered truck. The Talon was built solely for speed and handling. The USAF felt if you could fly it you could be trained to fly anything. Touch down speed was 155-165 knots depending on remaining fuel. You didn't really move the stick- you just thought about it. Roll rate was claimed to be an unbelievable 720 degrees/sec if you could actually get the stick to the stop - but you couldn't.. Climb rate was far in excess of 6000 ft/minute at 280 KIAs. On the negative side, It didn't carry much fuel, so sorties were usually no more than 1.2-1.3 hours, and if you lit the burners for more than a few minutes you were "Bingo" fuel. Aerobatics took an huge amount of airspace - 5-6000 feet minimum for a loop and the J-85 engines were particularly unforgiving about ice ingestion. But all in all one of my greatest flying experiences. I spent the rest of my career flying C-130s thus going from Formula 1 to off-road trucking.

Post by **Trev Clark** » 21 Mar 2010, 14:58

It seems a bit of a serious aircraft to train multi-engine pilots on, is that still the case?

Sorry, you flew the C-130, I'd better speak up...

It seems a bit of a serious aircraft to train multi-engine pilots on, is that still the case?

Chris Trott · Post by **Chris Trott** » 21 Mar 2010, 14:59

Yeah, but at least you can park yourself with a Herk no matter how you approach the parking spot.

Post by **DaveB** » 21 Mar 2010, 16:04

Yeh.. and with little regard to wind direction either. See it.. land it there

Dunno whether UKMIL will ever be back to respond. He removed us as a bookmark and asked to be removed from the forum

ATB

DaveB

FlyTexas · Post by **FlyTexas** » 21 Mar 2010, 16:26

Techy111 wrote:Looks a nice job there Gaffer...You going all foreign on us mate....

Tony

This isn't a foreign aircraft...oh, wait a minute.

Brian

Herkpilot · Post by **Herkpilot** » 22 Mar 2010, 04:41

Calypso - When I went through (Viet Nam era), everyone flew the same year long program - T-41 (C-172), T-37 and T-38. Then on to more specialized training. Now there are separate paths to preserve the airframe life as the Talons are getting a little long in the tooth.

After 20 plus years around the Allisons I do have a bit of tinitus but shouting isn't required (yet). The Herc however is ageless! While off topic to the Talon discussion, here's an interesting link to humanitarian airlift with the Herc http://herkybird.info/africa/index.htm Theres also a link on the site to an unpublished book (PDF) about about Afghanistan operations.

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