ORBX FTX England

[Sam Hudson]

Oi! You just watch what you're doing. I live in Havant and I will not be amused if you drop one of your shells down my chimney by mistake!!!

Calm down, Pete Dave's already hinted that he's done a naval gunnery course. He will certainly be able to execute clinical strikes to an amazing degree of accuracy. We wouldn't expect any collateral damage even if his battleship is moored at Spithead. It looks as though Sam has pulled off a neat tactical defence by making a generous offer (probably a bluff ) which seems to have bought the residents of Havant some breathing space. Of course, the situation is finely balanced and could go either way.

One thing, though. Could you just pop outside and check the colour of your house ...

Ian

Im not too sure what the generous offer I offered was !!!

and I must say that all the houses in the sim are textures of the Devs houses England accurate!

Thanks,

Sam

ORBX DEV and avid hobyist out to please with my work so let me

I also saw the picture earlier in this post about nook beach? This will be fixed in the patch, From the picture it is a texture fault.

[GHD]

I'm not sure about the shorelines, rivers and lakes. They look more reminiscent of the default vectors.

[speedbird591]

Im not too sure what the generous offer I offered was !!!

Simply the fact that you came here into the lion's den and actually asked for constructive criticism and said that you would try and incorporate it into a patch.

It's not a common thing to happen in FS, that the developer searches out the customer and actively requests criticism with an offer to possibly rectify any glaring faults. I think it's excellent customer service and that's the role I've been in for over 40 years so I recognise when it's done well. Pass that on to John Venema for me, Sam!

I'm already an ORBX convert with several of the NA areas and airports, but most people here are interested in classic British aircraft and want to fly over the UK so this scenery is important to them. They are generally perfectionists so they want it right and are a little disappointed that it wasn't quite as good as they'd hoped. But I know that you will improve the accuracy of the scenery and when a couple of airfields of the superb FTX quality are released we will all be very happy.

I regularly read the ORBX FTX forums and you will notice a difference. Most contributors there will automatically praise every screenshot or contribution to the forum, even if it's bland or worse. Here, people say what they think. If we post a poor screenshot or say something nonsensical we'll be annihilated and quite right too So don't be offended by criticism, I'd say your contribution has been very well received. Well done!

Ian

[Airspeed]

Grand dad Dave?
Yes little feller.
What's that funny mark on your tummy?
Oh, that's where I was practising navel gunnery.

[sketchy74]

Hi Fraser. I've been following your support issue on the ORBX forum. Obviously I can't contribute any more than the experts but I'll be interested in the outcome.

I did notice that they didn't really explain the library thing, they seemed to overlook that that this is your first ORBX product. I can help a bit with that.

The library file to which they gave you a link at the bottom of the support downloads page is not region specific. It contains all the library objects for all of the scenery areas and airports. The most recent version is contained in any scenery that you buy and is installed automatically. However the library is updated periodically with new objects required for newer airports and sceneries. It will also contain enhancements for older sceneries. So when a new scenery library is released (every 2 or 3 months) it's beneficial to install it. It has its own installer and installs over the old scenery library. There is only one rule and that is that it MUST be installed last after any other sceneries or patches. So if you are doing any re-installs or buying older scenery it is de rigeur to always run the latest library file as the last thing you do. It only takes a few seconds.

They do seem to be having a problem with the newest version which shipped with England and they have withdrawn that one at the moment from the support downloads page, so that still displays an older one than you already have. Just to confuse things more! When Library 121117 appears again it may be improved over the one you have so it wouldn't do any harm to run it once everything else is loaded. The scenery library has a dual installer for FSX and P3D and there is a radio button choice during installation. If, like some of us, you have your FTX scenery in FSX but have used the ORBX migrator tool to link it to P3D then you should run both installers. If you don't know what I'm talking about, please delete the last sentence from your consciousness

Hope this helps. And I hope you soon get sorted.

Ian

Hello Ian,

Apologies for the slow reply, and many thanks for offering your advice here regarding the problems I was encountering with the Orbx Eu package.

It turns out the major issue I had was that my FSX registry was not where the installer thought it should be, the second of the two patches the Orbx chap sent me did the trick.

I have only had a quick fly around (now the wife is out for the evening and the kids are asleep) I'll take a better look. I think I will echo a few of the comments made here about white houses and green beaches but at first glance it does look good. Reading your other posts it does sound like you are an Orbx convert and I have stared at many screen shots of their other offerings with admiration so I may invest deeper soon.

Thanks again for the heads up regarding the libraries, it sounds like a little nurturing is needed!

Anyhow off to fly... I do not have too much time as I need to get back into photoshop to paint the Bucc S2 we are working on.

Thank again.

Fraser.

[PeteP]

Calm down, Pete Dave's already hinted that he's done a naval gunnery course.

Precisely! That's exactly what I'm worried about, Ian!

Anyway I must go now as the decorators have just arrived and are unloading the cans of red, white, blue and gold emulsion I ordered. I thought if I painted the house like a target with the words, "AIM HERE" it would never be hit.
P.

[Chris Sykes]

Right then chaps, sorry i didnt get these up last night however here are some screenies of the ORBX scenery. Did a few flights around, as my nvidia drivers were updated i had to change my settings again...

Sam, whats the amount of autogen like compaired with UTX? I was flying around Newcastle in the new King Air and at 230 knots i was having blurries, while i was in the Buccaneer i was loosing autogen all the time. I might have to compair with UTX but im sure i could fly around at 400+ and have no bluries and keep autogen.

First off is the needles...



This mess is the quaries down south...




Back north, this is the lovely town of Wainfleet, as you can see there is little chunks of river, the norther cut is at the lop left of the image while the southern river is just above the left wing going diagonal to the top right...



Again this is to the east of Wainfleet, strips of river but not all joined up...



This is Gibralter point, you can see the end of the river... You can also see the strip of marsh land to the right that goes allong the wash towards Boston.



Skegness famous for its beach and caravan sites...



Cleethorpes has a cravan site though...

[DaveB]

Ahh.. dreary winter textures! I tried this yesterday at ES Guernsey and it went from a blaze of colour to something similar to those shots. It has to be said that our climate doesn't really conform to flightsim these days does it. Years ago, we'd have been covered in the remains of a nice hot summer.. grass with little colour having been burned to buggery but we have so much rain these days.. the country stays green by and large.

Interesting note about blurries. I saw this a couple of times in the PNW demo and I wasn't using anything as demanding as the Bucc which can make my system stutter against a blue sky I found it associated with changing views.. it popped back soon enough though. I didn't lose autogen either.. just a blurred ground underneath giving a rather surreal look.

While UTX would probably give you the rivers.. would it produce enough detail for the caravan sites you mentioned?

Thanks for posting those Chris
ATB
DaveB

[Sam Hudson]

Im not too sure what the generous offer I offered was !!!

Simply the fact that you came here into the lion's den and actually asked for constructive criticism and said that you would try and incorporate it into a patch.

It's not a common thing to happen in FS, that the developer searches out the customer and actively requests criticism with an offer to possibly rectify any glaring faults. I think it's excellent customer service and that's the role I've been in for over 40 years so I recognise when it's done well. Pass that on to John Venema for me, Sam!

I'm already an ORBX convert with several of the NA areas and airports, but most people here are interested in classic British aircraft and want to fly over the UK so this scenery is important to them. They are generally perfectionists so they want it right and are a little disappointed that it wasn't quite as good as they'd hoped. But I know that you will improve the accuracy of the scenery and when a couple of airfields of the superb FTX quality are released we will all be very happy.

I regularly read the ORBX FTX forums and you will notice a difference. Most contributors there will automatically praise every screenshot or contribution to the forum, even if it's bland or worse. Here, people say what they think. If we post a poor screenshot or say something nonsensical we'll be annihilated and quite right too So don't be offended by criticism, I'd say your contribution has been very well received. Well done!

Ian

Thanks Ian :P We will try and improve as much as we can!

Right then chaps, sorry i didnt get these up last night however here are some screenies of the ORBX scenery. Did a few flights around, as my nvidia drivers were updated i had to change my settings again...

Sam, whats the amount of autogen like compaired with UTX? I was flying around Newcastle in the new King Air and at 230 knots i was having blurries, while i was in the Buccaneer i was loosing autogen all the time. I might have to compair with UTX but im sure i could fly around at 400+ and have no bluries and keep autogen.

First off is the needles...



This mess is the quaries down south...




Back north, this is the lovely town of Wainfleet, as you can see there is little chunks of river, the norther cut is at the lop left of the image while the southern river is just above the left wing going diagonal to the top right...



Again this is to the east of Wainfleet, strips of river but not all joined up...



This is Gibralter point, you can see the end of the river... You can also see the strip of marsh land to the right that goes allong the wash towards Boston.



Skegness famous for its beach and caravan sites...



Cleethorpes has a cravan site though...

Hi Chris!

The issue of the Bluriness has been raised a few times on the ORBX Forum and I also have this issue on my home pc! The only answer that has been found is that the pc cant cope!! Ive got mine in for an upgrade at Christmas!

As for the missing caravans and beaches I will talk to my fellow devs and see if anythings possible!

Any more things you guys are having trouble with please post on the ORBX Forum with you FSS Order number !

Thanks,

Sam. (ORBX UK DEV TEAM)

[Chris Sykes]

Hi Dave, Sam picked up the Caravan dig for Skegness as its missing them... And no UTX didnt have caravan sites...
Hi Sam, thanks look forward to the update!

Wow if my PC cant cope id hate to see what my old PC wouldnt be able to do!