747 Overrun Video

ianhind · Post by **ianhind** » 21 Jun 2006, 00:03

Leif,

That seems to be the one:

photos:
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/showthread.php?t=4242

links to same video:
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/showthread.php?t=4300

info:
http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:Hv0 ... =clnk&cd=4

VEGAS · Post by **VEGAS** » 21 Jun 2006, 00:10

I suppose that course of action was better than taking to the air, although I could be wrong!

Interesting stuff! Glad the crew were ok.

airboatr · Post by **airboatr** » 21 Jun 2006, 01:27

one of the girls in at the bottom of the page had her tail
stuck up in the air higher then the 747 did after it crashed

poor pilot , probly spilt his beverage
hehe

LongHaul · Post by **LongHaul** » 21 Jun 2006, 03:41

Although they're not well liked round here, it says something for theScarebus that the gear didnt just tear off!! :shock:

one of the girls in at the bottom of the page had her tail
stuck up in the air higher then the 747 did after it crashed

Yeah I noticed that too...

Chris Trott · Post by **Chris Trott** » 21 Jun 2006, 03:59

LongHaul wrote:Although they're not well liked round here, it says something for theScarebus that the gear didnt just tear off!! :shock:

That's true, but the reason why the nose gear ended up like that (along with 4 others, including 2 other JetBlue aircraft) says something else. The fact that Airbus denies that it's a problem and refuses to fix it says even more.

Also, the fact that Airbus programmed the nose gear to FAIL in that position and not document that failure mode is even more disturbing. Boeing's systems fail to straight ahead, as do McDonnell Douglas, Lockheed, BAe, BAC, and every other aircraft out there. If the system fails, it either fails to a "free" mode or to a "centered" position, not to a 90* off position. Especially since having them fail in-line allows the gear to be retracted at least.

airboatr · Post by **airboatr** » 21 Jun 2006, 04:35

cause it's more about the money
all that corporate cockka

plain as day .............the concern of the dollar or Pound

is more important , well untill a major disaster......
it's happened over and over in the past
However to be fair It could be a glich
they can't put thier finger on
(some thing in the "fuzzy logic" so to speak )
you know they'll cover it up untill the answer is found.
.... Also I was noticing something else about the runway
center line
It seams to be the major fuel source for the fire
it doesn't start untill the wheel is scubbing the line off the runway then dies out as it "hits the blank spots"
that Is something I would think needs to be looked into
luckly there wasn't a fuel leak from the plane
could have been worse.
or better if the line wouldn't cause a flame up in the first place
.
..
... plus it was ironic that the pilot stopped the plane at the end of the last line, .......like spot on
he could have told the PAX with pure honesty
"Ok Folks we've reached the end of the line"

.....
I'm sory for that there bad joke
:redface:

DispatchDragon · Post by **DispatchDragon** » 21 Jun 2006, 04:35

Boeing this Boeing that-- Chris for christsake man think

lets see

1/. Boeing Engineering was directly responsible for the deaths of almost
400 japanese passengers when the aft bulkhead of a 747 was incorrectly
strap rivetted by BOEING engineers failed in flight.

2/. There have been two MAJOR accidents in the US on Boeing 737s
caused By RHO incursions which Boeing publically dismisses as
ever happening - yet within 24 hrs of the USAir crash at PIT
they had every 737 in US Airs fleet inspected.

3/. The Loss of a Silk Air 737 was attributed by BOEING as pilot error, as
in the Captain caused a mach upset at altitude killing himself and the
entire crew and passengers on purpose (Suicide). Later proven to be delamination of
horizontal tail skins due to inproper bonding at the Boeing plant

Try to act your age and not allow your prejudice to cloud your vision
Boeing, Airbus , Tupolev, it doesnt matter they are all in it for the
money - Fortunatly no one has been killed by the steering failures
that have occured and BEEN DOCUMENTED by authorities on both sides
of the Atlantic which is more than can be said about the above examples
of Boeing products.

My aplogies for flaming my friend but sometimes you just stand up and scream ........hit me - Keep your comments about American this and American that to forums that have the same maturity as you show when you post these kind of things

Leif

VEGAS · Post by **VEGAS** » 21 Jun 2006, 09:31

What amaze's me is the fact he seems to turn each topic he posts into an East Vs West debate or one which in turn upsets other members by saying how much the USA is better than everyone else at everything!

We could rattle on all day about statistics & figures and how much each nation has contributed towards aviation safety and advancement of technology.

But thats not what this is about Chris. :tuttut:

airboatr · Post by **airboatr** » 21 Jun 2006, 19:21

anyone have a opinion on the runway line thing???

DispatchDragon · Post by **DispatchDragon** » 21 Jun 2006, 19:33

have to look up the chemicla properties of the paint - but Im sure if you applied enough heat and burning magnesium ......

It s a good thought though

Leif