Classic British Flight Sim

821.. when you say you don't see the wings, do you mean you can't see the wingtips from the flightdeck? DM didn't make a full VC cabin (at least I don't think he did,, again, I never venture that far back) so you won't be able to look out of one of the windows from a pax seat and see them but you should be able to see the wingtips from the flightdeck

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DaveB

DaveB wrote:821.. when you say you don't see the wings, do you mean you can't see the wingtips from the flightdeck? DM didn't make a full VC cabin (at least I don't think he did,, again, I never venture that far back) so you won't be able to look out of one of the windows from a pax seat and see them but you should be able to see the wingtips from the flightdeck

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DaveB

Well, I am able to use ctrl-enter to move back a good ways behind the flight deck and then turn and see them behind me. But I certainly don't see them looking out the left hand side window from the flight deck.

Hi 821..

No.. I've just had a look myself and although there, they're certainly not easy to see from the VC. I was half hanging out of the aircraft! I'm not sure if this isn't a trade off of 'As real as it gets' mate. Probably a bit easier to see in a 200/475 but in the 500 I checked.. the front end is just too far away to see them 'sensibly' from the VC

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DaveB

No matter. The more I fly this old bird, the more I like it.

Thanks!

One thing to remember is to throttle back after take off (Get out of the red range)or you'll cook your engines and destroy them

Alternately, use the top temp switches at the back of the pedestal. These will limit power to keep the temp within safe limits.


So if you do make a full power take off and after a minuet or so both engines stop , don't bother to try and restart them as they are wrecked and you need to get it down

Highlander_821 wrote:No matter. The more I fly this old bird, the more I like it.

Thanks!

Seconded!
Between this and the Trident, I'm stumped as to which I prefer......

Well, I am able to use ctrl-enter to move back a good ways behind the flight deck and then turn and see them behind me. But I certainly don't see them looking out the left hand side window from the flight deck.

Yes, the wings are set back from the cockpit slightly, one either side in the traditional manner. (sorry couldn't resist a bit of Basil Fawlty)

The point was that the wings are there in the VC model and so you should be able to set up one (or two) of those [CameraDefinition.xx] bits in the aircraft.cfg that should make useful wing views for FSX.
Anyway, after spending a few more minutes looking at it, I don't think you even need any interior model to get wing views. You should be able to set it up for any model's exterior.
I've just put this in the 1-11 500 aircraft.cfg, You'd need to adjust it to taste, but it gives reasonable wing views of each side (select views in FSX in the normal way & you should find it)...

[CameraDefinition.0]
Title = "Right Side Window"
Guid = {54F54B8A-3EC2-2D4E-8D10-B8F9D0F16ACC}
Description = View of the right wing from the passenger cabin
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.75
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = 0, 1.8, -3.5
InitialPbh = 10, 0, 80
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum

[CameraDefinition.1]
Title = "Left Side Window"
Guid = {0ae3f864-da10-4e5a-977c-b9bba47d6f7a}
Description = View of the left wing from the passenger cabin
Origin = Center
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = FALSE
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = FALSE
Track = None
ShowAxis = FALSE
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.75
ShowWeather = Yes
InitialXyz = 0, 1.8, -3.5
InitialPbh = 10, 0, 280
XyzAdjust = TRUE
Category=Aircraft
MomentumEffect=TRUE
ClipMode=Minimum

The bits in red are adjusted to alter X,Y,Z coordinates and the viewing angles.
I don't know what you're supposed to do with the Guids. These are the same codes as on the default Airbus.

DM

This is what is commonly called 'progress' David. Spend many a long hour making sure the flightdeck is bang on when in reality, you should have made sure folk can look out at the wings instead. I thought the whole idea of VC's (FS in general) was that you made the environment as accurate as possible within the confines of the sim. I've never bought FS with the intention of being a passenger

Sri 821.. this isn't a dig at you. More an obituary of what the sim has become

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DaveB

Yes, FS has progressed to the point where it's now easier to make a real one.

To be fair, for the FSX people this camera stuff is an improvement. Although I remain baffled by the need for Guids just to look in different directions.

DM

DaveB wrote:

This is what is commonly called 'progress' David. Spend many a long hour making sure the flightdeck is bang on when in reality, you should have made sure folk can look out at the wings instead. I thought the whole idea of VC's (FS in general) was that you made the environment as accurate as possible within the confines of the sim. I've never bought FS with the intention of being a passenger

Sri 821.. this isn't a dig at you. More an obituary of what the sim has become

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DaveB

Ha, no offense taken. I like window or wing views because after a nice, smooth flight and greasing the landing, I like to replay the landing from spot view, tower view, and a passenger view. I enjoy seeing it happen much like it does in real life, as the power gets cut and the aircraft settles down and then the crew hits the reversers. I get to think "wow, that pilot really made a nice landing there", and I know that I was the pilot!!