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Re: Nice Plane, not often seen
Posted: 07 Mar 2010, 23:57
by TobyV
NigelC wrote:One of the 1-11 drivers at BIA banged out of a Javelin when an engine blew up and the cast-off blades punctured the fuel collector tank. Big Fire!
He had a second Martin-Baker tie for leaving a Meteor (don't know what mark) after an engine problem with that.
Apparently, according to someone else I know that flew Javelins, when you engaged reheat th bl@@dy thing slowed down!
N
Judging by the number of successive marks that were supplied to the RAF, I think it was perceived that Glosters were using the RAF to do their development! Seemingly the reheat problem was caused by the inability to supply both the primary combustors and the thrust augmentation system with sufficient fuel. I was very surprised to read that. Usually the problem with [a badly designed] reheat [nozzle] is that it places a backpressure on the engine which feeds back to the compressor, resulting in the compressor surging, but seemingly that wasn't the issue with the Javelin:
http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk ... istory.php
Re: Nice Plane, not often seen
Posted: 08 Mar 2010, 05:58
by SkippyBing
As I understand it the reheat problem only occurred below a certain altitude, above that as the air thinned the fuel pump was able to deliver enough fuel to both parts of the engine for full combustion. Certainly a bit of a fubar in the design stage!
Re: Nice Plane, not often seen
Posted: 08 Mar 2010, 18:54
by dswanson
Hi,
in reply to austerdriver's question, my screenies are of Mr Ito's Javelin, but I completely reworked the flight dynamics as they were not representative of such a heavy plane, although I've actually made it just supersonic in a dive...
Re: Nice Plane, not often seen
Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 16:18
by Tweek
An aircraft's faults and foibles are what give it its character!
Lovely aircraft, the Javelin. Would have been great to have seen one fly... alas, I was born 14 years too late.
Re: Nice Plane, not often seen
Posted: 10 Mar 2010, 21:24
by Paul K
DaveB wrote:
Me too
ATB
DaveB

I bet you had the Saladin armoured car too. After five minutes, the gun barrels would be at a funny angle, and broke off when you tried to straighten them. From then on, you had to convince yourself it was one of Percy Hobart's 'Funnies'. What a swizz.
Re: Nice Plane, not often seen
Posted: 11 Mar 2010, 01:13
by Rich
I had Saladin but the Alvis model, practicaly unbendable gun barrel, wasn't allowed to keep it though,
My brother had one too but other bits got bent due to rough handling,
My brother on the revamped by a Mk7 anti tank mine the Regiment had 3 such misshaps in our time in Aden.
The Salamander based on that chassis layout was the only one I never got to drive.
Re: Nice Plane, not often seen
Posted: 11 Mar 2010, 13:58
by DispatchDragon
Nice ride Rich
How did you brother find the AA box in Aden?

:):)
Leif