Operational flying in WW2

The Crewroom for non-FS related stuff, fun and general chat.

Moderators: Guru's, The Ministry

Post Reply
User avatar
Bridon Bear
The Ministry
Posts: 1008
Joined: 26 Jun 2004, 10:30
Location: Cheltenham Gloucestershire
Contact:

Operational flying in WW2

Post by Bridon Bear »

Some of you will know that my late Father was in Bomber Command with 408 Squadron (RCAF) based at Linton-on-Ouse, flying Lancaster II's and Halibag VII's during WWII. whilst having been 'Off Radar' on CBFSIM for some time now, I have been quietly liaising with the Canadian Government records office who have sent loads of emails back and have confirmed that my father did 49 'ops' and was shot down twice, on both occasions over UK soil and getting back to crash land at or near the 'drome. They are in the process of sending me copies of the Squadron ORB's and research is still ongoing but from those received so far, the details are absolutely incredible.

Details are amazing and include, aircraft type, serial no, Crew names and Rank, bomb load both weight and armament type, times of take off and return, transit heights and also height of bombing run, aircraft snags if any, weather...etc. Some of these trips were well over 8 hours in duration in sub zero temperatures and all the attendant risk of hostilities it must have been horrendous.

As an example, on the 14th October 1944, he took of in Halifax VII NP746 'E' at 0647hrs with 10,000 lbs of bombs for an comparatively unusual daylight raid to Duisberg in Germany returning back to base at 1204hrs.

That same evening they were tasked to bomb the same target taking off at 2235 but at 0051hrs at 19,000ft they had icing problems in the carburettor and a runaway prop that wouldn't feather so were aborted and returned to base at 0304hrs on the morning of 15th October effectively totalling over 10 hours flying in the one day.

The crew were rested but rest was very short lived as that same afternoon at 1718hrs, they were off again in Halifax VII NP769 'D' with another 10,000lbs of bombs for Duisberg once more not getting home until 2212hrs. This is just a snapshot of how intense the operations were and how little rest they all had at times....cannot imagine the strain they were all under as these were not simple everyday flights of course, it was under at times considerable hostile enemy fire there and back so not a picnic by any means.

He always said that he did a lot of operational flying but to read that they have ascertained from the ORB's that he had completed 49 ops has made me very proud of him. I remember one Sunday afternoon watching the film 'Memphis Belle' on TV....as we know, the story line is all about achieving 25 missions with all the resulting fanfare. I clearly remember seeing Dad sitting there watching the film and quietly give a smile and nod, nothing more...now I can understand why.! ;)
Image


'Only Birds and Fools Fly'

http://thethriftysquirrels.co.uk

User avatar
Airspeed
The Reds & Concorde
The Reds & Concorde
Posts: 10372
Joined: 14 Sep 2011, 03:46
Location: Central Victorian Highlands, Dja Dja Wurrung Country, Australia
Contact:

Re: Operational flying in WW2

Post by Airspeed »

Thanks for this peep into those family records! :thumbsup:
Your pride in your Father's activities is well justified!

I was telling my wife only this morning (re the U boat ghost story) how the archives allow researchers to check details from both sides, often establishing exactly who shot down who, and how, and the specific aircraft involved.
It's fascinating how much detail was recorded, and that a fair amount is accessible today, despite the pressure & confusion (thread re Spitfire invasion stripes) and the passage of time.
Cheers, Mike.
Perspective determines interpretation.
Image

http://airspeedsflyingvisit.threadwings ... index.html

User avatar
Bridon Bear
The Ministry
Posts: 1008
Joined: 26 Jun 2004, 10:30
Location: Cheltenham Gloucestershire
Contact:

Re: Operational flying in WW2

Post by Bridon Bear »

Indeed Mike....the records which were at one time top secret of course contained amazing details...nothing was left out and this was good for the modern day historian as we can look into the past history from those dark days and understand so much more than we ever thought possible.

Here is a snapshot of dozens of pages that were sent over from the Canadian Government showing the sort of info I mean.

BrianG ;)

Image
Image


'Only Birds and Fools Fly'

http://thethriftysquirrels.co.uk

Dev One
Vintage Pair
Vintage Pair
Posts: 2591
Joined: 10 Jul 2009, 08:33
Location: Chacombe about 2 mile east of M40 J11

Re: Operational flying in WW2

Post by Dev One »

Amazing...thank for the history.
Bit slightly off topic, but my father was a ferry pilot in '44 & '45 with ATA & I believe that was not always easy as they had no radio aids or ammo if caught by the enemy. Some aircraft were damaged & being returned for repair, he did recount that his first Spit that he ferried had bits falling off it........he should have looked harder on doing his pre-flight check being a licensed engineer, but I presume that being one, he expected every one else to be as conscientious as he was!
Keith

Vancouver
Concorde
Concorde
Posts: 1476
Joined: 05 Apr 2008, 00:27
Location: CYXX

Re: Operational flying in WW2

Post by Vancouver »

Fascinating read. Thank you.
Alex

Post Reply