A.380 problems

Post by **Garry Russell** » 18 Dec 2006, 23:44

No comment to make as I can't verify the report

None the less it is worth a read

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ ... siness-hed

Garry

Charlie Bravo · Post by **Charlie Bravo** » 19 Dec 2006, 00:04

An interesting read.

DispatchDragon · Post by **DispatchDragon** » 19 Dec 2006, 01:04

By an American Newspaper that openly supports Boeing.....So????

Post by **TSR2** » 19 Dec 2006, 01:49

A shining example of why we don't build aircraft any more.... we actually aren't that bad! But we couldn't attract investment.... I swear If I was a multi billion aire we'd be making RJX's and working on the next supersonic jet... we are bloody good.... just a shame gready investment bankers don't see it that way.

AndyG · Post by **AndyG** » 19 Dec 2006, 07:49

I'm with Leif on this one; so?

The A380 has now reached (and passed) the certification stage; Boeing having even completed the first 787 yet (btw did anybody else hear about them having to reject some of the components recently, due to quality issues?).

AndyG

TobyV · Post by **TobyV** » 19 Dec 2006, 17:53

Theres a massive dose of pro-american, anti-Airbus spin all through that article. A lot of the "facts" sound rather distorted to their fit their own tune. Take it with a shaker of salt.

Post by **Garry Russell** » 19 Dec 2006, 19:55

What strikes me is that is thw when an American company hits obstacles in uncharted territory....which this is, it a pioneering spirit.

Here the obstacles that are inevitable. are presented as incompetence.

Very biased reporting from Boeings home town. :huf:

Garry

petermcleland · Post by **petermcleland** » 19 Dec 2006, 21:01

Pity that white elephant ever got born...It will never survive. Better to lose billions now by cancelling, than trillions later if they carry on. The whole concept is totally flawed.

cstorey · Post by **cstorey** » 20 Dec 2006, 11:42

I am sorry to disagree strongly with Peter McL, but I see no justification for his view.If the concept is flawed, then the entire concept of long range civil aviation is flawed. The purpose of the A380 is to restore to long distance travel some of the comfort which has completely disappeared ( in economy class at any rate) in the last 20 years in the quest for reducing seat-mile costs. This also was the rationale behind the 747, and it succeeded, albeit with a design that was rather behind the times even when it appeared. ( As a friend of mine said when he got one on his licence after flying the DC-10 for several years, he felt as though he had taken a step backwards, but thought he'd never be out of a job) . As Peter will remember, it too had very serious problems with the PW engines which took several years in service actually to cure . If the 380 induces people to enjoy flying aagain, rather than tolerating it, it will contribute significantly to the future of commercial aviation

jonesey2k · Post by **jonesey2k** » 20 Dec 2006, 11:57

I hope the A380 succeeds because of national pride (engines, wings ect) and also because I fear that if she fails it could bring down Airbus or at the very least hurt it badly.
They need to get their fingers out!

We all know what happens when there is no competetion...