Giving something back.

soggy · Post by **soggy** » 12 Apr 2007, 10:26

Hi all,

Over the past few year's,I have done nothing but take when it comes to flight simming,So after a flash of inspiration whilst waiting to unload at EGCC last night,I have decided to try and give something back.

I want to have a crack at recreating manchester airport as it was in 1969,Now being completly new when it comes to building anything for flightsim,I think it will probably take the form of a new afcad and the basic building layout of the time using the default buildings to start with.

I may attempt to create custom buildings depending on how i get on.
However i have hit my first stumbling block,After 2 hours of searching,I can't find any plans of the airport from the period.

Any pointers anyone can provide will be much apprechiated.

As i said above,I am trying to give something back,It may come to nothing,It may be cr@p and unsuitable for public consumption

,But one can only try.

Cheers

Pete.

Callum · Post by **Callum** » 12 Apr 2007, 10:49

I'd personally love to see the plans too, especially for the 80s period. I can only help you with modeling tips i'm afraid, soggy, but I wish you the best of luck!

Post by **Garry Russell** » 12 Apr 2007, 10:53

I can't help with plans Pete but I also would like to wish you luck.

All it takes is the will and enthusiasm to give it a go.....as to the rest enjoy it and there will always be someone here to help and advise. :dance:

ATB

Garry

soggy · Post by **soggy** » 12 Apr 2007, 11:07

Cheers lads,

With a bit of luck if the meet happens on Sunday,I may be able to pick a few brains at the airport.

Pete.

DispatchDragon · Post by **DispatchDragon** » 12 Apr 2007, 12:19

Pete

A thought - Manchester City Council Archives - Surveyors office
there must be plans there

1969 was when they extended the runway there so there a very good chance there will be something in the archives there

Leif

FlyTexas · Post by **FlyTexas** » 12 Apr 2007, 13:57

While I'm unable to assist with your project, I salute your wonderful attitude towards giving back to the flightsim community. The community could use alot more people like you, Pete.

Brian

petermcleland · Post by **petermcleland** » 12 Apr 2007, 16:44

Here is Manchester in 1985:-

If this is sufficient for a start then use them as they are. If you wish them full size then I can upload them for you to download. When you require, I also have the approaches, SIDs, STARs and noise abatement procedures for the same time...17 JUN 85.

In 1969...It looked about the same but I think there were not as many diversion parking slots.

kit · Post by **kit** » 12 Apr 2007, 19:19

And back then you could walk along the top of Piers A and B and take photos of the aircraft right at the gate!

Nowadays not only would it be a 'Security Issue' but the HSE would probably have collective heart failure at the mere thought of Joe Publics getting that close to a jet exhaust <sigh>

Post by **MALTBY D** » 12 Apr 2007, 19:34

An old Manchester would be great.

Peter's 1985 layouts only need slight adjustment to go back to 1969. The edited layout below roughly shows bits added after 1969 in red.

The 'new' international pier C opened in 1974 with work only starting in the early 70s, so that bit was open space in 1969.
The runway was also shorter in 1969 & finished before the main road (which now goes through a tunnel).
It had a big extension from 1798 to 2745 metres sometime in 1969 (orange bit) and then up to 3048 metres in the early 80s (red bit).

Not wishing to add any pressure, but there are a few old pics on Airliners.net that show the main features.

Tower from pier B
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0220698/L/

All three black hangars from end of pier A
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0749643/L/

Centre black hangar
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0961446/L/

Detail of the outer black hangars
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0870654/L/

Cargo hangar from pier A
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0751457/L/

Parking area in front of the Cargo hangar from pier A
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0754655/L/

Pier A from pier B (+ cargo hangars beyond)
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0748633/L/

Fire station (+ maintenance hangars behind) from pier B
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0751664/L/

Maintenance hangars + Fairey hangar from pier B
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0226363/L/

From pier B showing open space where new international pier was built
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0733395/L/

Good luck. Hopefully you will get somewhere with it.
Let us know how you get on & if you need any help with textures etc.

DM

richard/egtd · Post by **richard/egtd** » 13 Apr 2007, 10:39

Pete

I have some books with data about Ringway for the period around 1965 - with 3 runways operational [ 02/20, 06/24 and 10/28 ].
If this is of any interest, P.M me your contact details and I'll happily scan the relevant pages and send them to you.

Best of luck.

Richard.