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I'd forgotten the Daytona 675 :doh: which I agree looks gorgeous. It looks like Triumph feel they have to have a bike to "beat" the Japanese sports bikes.

Now there are two versions of the naked 675 and the tests I've read suggest that the cheaper one is a better all round bike than the sport version. Unless you're into track days of course.

Did you read an article in Bike some time ago when they detuned an R6 with cams and injectors from a Fazer and then had people try a standard R6 and their detuned one back to back, both on the road and track, without telling them what the difference between the bikes was. They just asked which bike do you prefer and why.
Only one person preferred the standard R6 and most thought that the detuned one was faster as it pulled better in the mid range than the standard bike which was more powerful at high revs.
Since then the R6 has got even more extreme with a 17,000 RPM limit (if memory serves) and Yamaha are introducing more detuned bikes to sell to the masses. Isn't the Fazer being dropped next year in favour of more versions of the Diversion all rounder?

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Hi Jon :hello:

I don't remember the R6 test as I've not really kept my finger on the pulse but I can imagine the less racey cam giving a more usable spread of power. Unless you're a track day loony, midrange is ultimately more important than top end and I'd imagine even a detuned R6 would still have a more than respectable top speed :D

Not sure about the Fazer. I liked the idea (and look) of the bike when it was released and the promise of an R1 engine made it yet more attractive. At least Yamaha didn't detune the cr@p out of it like Honda did with the 900 Blade engine fitted in the Hornet. That said, the Hornet was/is still a capable bike and build quality is probably better than the Fazer. The Diversion.. now there's a bike I've not liked from day 1 :lol: Retro is one thing.. the Diversion is something else! :D

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Dave, I've got my eyes on the 2010 Suzuki GSR 250. I think it's a good idea if I work myself up the ladder extremely slowly. Ill be keeping my little thumper for commuting anyway as its hard to beat getting well over 200 miles on about £10 of fuel and I'm very fond on her :)
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GSR 250.. must go and have a look Jonesey ;)

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Can't find anything on the 250 mate *-) It's a surprising sized engine given that none of the big manufacturers have mass produced a road bike of this capacity for years. TBH.. I'd venture a little higher say.. 500-650. Unless you go for something like a GSX-R 600 (you'll be hammered by insurance!).. bikes in the mid-range are pretty cheap to run and insure, they do what it says on the tin and are fast enough to get you from A to B in a more timely manner without being OTT. Unless any new 250 was a complete beast.. I think you'd be disappointed amigo ;)
Back in the days when you could ride a 250 on a provisional (Suzuki's GT250, Yamaha's RD250 and the Kwak KH250 being the missiles of choice) I couldn't afford one :lol: Did 21000miles over 3 years on my brand new Suzuki GT185N and when I passed my test, I chopped it in immediately (on the way back from taking my test!!) for a new Suzy GS550D (the last wire-wheel version which I got a good deal on as they wanted rid!). Never regretted that move mate so give it some consideration ;)

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Details are a bit sketchy but from what I can gather it'll be a fuel injected parallel twin with 30hp and bits nicked from the B-King. Due to go on sale in Brazil in early 2010 and coming to the rest of Europe not long after.

I'd love a B-King but with the engine from a 'busa I'll give that a miss :) There is the GSR 600, but I'd be a bit dubious moving right up from a 125 :worried:
If it doesn't come to the UK like the Honda VTR 250 then I could always try out the Kwaky 250 Ninja :)
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Just remember to keep on the correct side of the road. Especially on the Fosse Way as you may meet me in my white van coming the other way.
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Hiya Jonesey :hello:

Tks for that. I can see the 'B King' styling :) 30bhp and fuel injection doesn't sound too bad but still.. I honestly wonder how happy you'd be one. Undoubtedly, it'll be faster than the 125 and probably a lot easier to ride as a consequence. Good for the commuter who wants something rather more than a tiddler but.. out on the open road would be a different story. All bikes of this size suffer from a lack of top end grunt and what this will translate to is mucho slowing at a reasonable sized hill or when riding into a headwind. You'll then find that the row of cars and lorries you've just gone past will back up behind you.. not a very comfortable feeling mate. 600's (I think directly of the SV650 Suzy here but you can equate it to the Honda Hornet or Suzuki Bandit.. that sort of bike) are more able to maintain 'legal limits' in a variety of circumstances and will give you more confidence. They're all fast enough to kill you but you can right yourself off on anything mate ;) Don't be scared of a 600 or middleweight bike. I know you're used to a 125 and even the thought of riding a 600 can have the old knees shaking (they WILL shake the first time you ride one) but it's like anything.. once you get used to it, you'll find you don't have to wring the guts out of it to proceed in an orderly fashion and the whole experience will be a lot more fun ;)

By all means.. hang on to the tiddler if you can. They're much easier to ride in crap conditions and while you're doing that.. your pride and joy can be safe and sound at home avoiding the winter road salt ;)

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DaveB wrote:Don't be scared of a 600 or middleweight bike.
Second that.
But also consider that cylinder replacement can only be substituted by even more replacement! :Dance:

Here's mine:

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Suzuki DR800S.
I ride her since 2000 with all about 60.000 km logged (sorry for using metric values...)

Sufficient payload compartment optional:

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Good enough for 150 km/h on the road (rather exhausting), but marvellous out in the bush:

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Nice sound also:
800 cm3 from one cylinder!

The only bike I can sit on in a reasonable way:
With my fuselage length of 1,96m and a MTOW of about 125kg, there are not many bikes I feel cosy with...

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Hi Markus :hello:

She looks in excellent condition considering the year. Nice to have another biker among us ;)

Those are seriously heavy duty panniers :D

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Only one more sleep before Santa comes (again) Mr B? :excited:

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