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Hi Eddie :hello:

I keep threatening myself I'm gonna take the Cat out but I'm getting lazy. Only having one rx between 4 models (I don't fiddle with the 27mhz in the P51).. I CBA with the chopping and changing :lol:

Had the glider up 18 times over the past week.. much of it flying rather than gliding if you get my drift 8) Still.. the kids are back soon.. some are back already which will leave the odd warm afternoon free from trolls ;)

The Bixler arrived today but it's still in bits. Not sure whether to glue or tape the two fuse halves together *-) Maybe a combination of the two will work. Had to buy an ESC for it along with bullet connectors, heatshrink and some deans connectors. Dug the soldering iron out this morning and did the necessary having found out how on the GiantShark website :) Connected the ESC to the motor and battery this evening and the motor runs the correct way and everything seems to work. Just have to decide how to go about the 'joining' then hopefully.. I can leave the glider for a while. Can't move in the front room at the moment. The glider is resting on it's nose in front of me and the desk it normally sits on is covered with Bixler. SWMBO is starting to twitch :lol:

Rgr on the battery voltage readout on the txer. ;) I've seen some voltage check plug-ins but don't know how these work. Do they plug into the batt socket on the rxer and send telemetary :dunno: I was hoping you'd say the DX6i could do this :( Never mind.. I guess knowing the tx battery state is useful as when the tx light starts to flash.. it's too late :lol:

Bad swag with the Mig. This isn't the first time I've read of batteries coming out of one. One chap suggested it was a design fault *-) Hope you didn't do too much damage ;)

Looking forward to some holiday footage :thumbsup:

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Bixler ARF (Hobbyking UK warehouse) mini review

Hi there fellow sad gits :lol:
Here's the latest and what will be for some time, the final addition to the hangar..
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This is the Bixler ARF model from HobbyKing's UK warehouse (not including the Labradors nose.. she wouldn't sod off!). This isn't the only version available.. it comes in PNF and RTF flavours too though not from the UK warehouse. Us paeons are relegated to ARF!

What you get in the box..
The model with servos and motor installed, decals already applied, a CF rod for the wings, horizontal stab, fin and a little bag of bits which include velcro (nice touch).. the prop, control horns and control wire connectors. What you don't get is as you'd expect for ARF.. no battery, no radio gear and no ESC in this case.
The fuse comes in two halves which had me wondering how the hell I was going to glue it. I normally use epoxy which is a bugger to mix and would probably have gone off before I'd added it to one of the two fuse sides! Fortunately, that nice glue kit I got from Wheelspin included something called Foam2Foam. I've not used it before but it's a 'one shot' glue (no mixing) which can be 'moved' for some time before it sets (though still not long) and takes 1-2hours to go off. That seemed to fit the ticket so I used it and it appears to have worked fine. I further secured the fuse halves with clear tape (making sure no glue was proud of the join) and when dry.. added a further strip of white duct tape to ensure strength and protect the under fuse.
One thing I read online was that the control surfaces need to be 'exercised' before use and that was a good tip. The rudder was fine but the elevator and ailerons were almost solid! :-O

As mentioned, the fuse comes in 2 halves which is something I'd not expected but the reason for it is obvious given that this is an ARF model. The 3 motor wires (which came with 3.5mm male plugs) only just protrude into the fuse and as you have to add your own ESC, it would have been impossible to attach the two had the fuse been ready glued. BTW.. HK recommend a 20amp ESC w/BEC for the Bixler but on Dale's advice.. I went for a 30A from GiantShark for a little over £12. It's programmable but all I've had to do with the Bixler is reset the throttle setting.. easy. Pwr the model up with the throttle at it's lowest setting.. open the throttle to it's max position then pwr off. I was worried about having to program the ESC but it's defaults are fine for fixed wing ;)

It all went together pretty well and everything lines up. The aileron control rods have an adjustable clevis at the end but no tiny elastic bands to keep the clevis shut. Will do something about this if I can get my hands on some of those lazzy bands :) I don't care much for the control rod - control horn fixings. They're those horrible little bullet things which reminds me.. I need to get some 'locknut' adhesive for piece of mind.

With the ESC connected and the fuse glued.. there's fair space in the cockpit. The model comes with 6 metal washers glued into one side of the fuse nose and many writers recommend taking them out. I chose to leave them in situ as I'm using the lowest rated battery for the Bixler.. 1300mAh 3S 15C/20C depending on which one of the two I use. As standard, the battery needs to go deep into the nose to get the CoG right (60mm from the LE) but for users of higher pwr batteries, 2200mAh for example, then it may be prudent to remove the washers.

Oh.. before I go further, if you get one.. don't bother reading the colour 'Assembly Manual'. It's in chinese/english and as far as content goes, it's as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike. You DO get one though and it's in colour which is 100% more than I got with the HK ASW28! :lol:

What next.. well.. how does it fly?
I'd just got back from my first two flights in those shots above and as you can see, nothing is broken and no dinks.. a first! :lol: This says much from the models docile nature. Everyone who's ever lobbed a model into the air for it's maiden will be nervous as every model is an unknown quantity. All you can do is use all your experience and be prepared as you can be. BNF/PNP/RTF models from the likes of Parkzone/Hobbyzone don't suffer the same sort of worry though you still have to be careful. With these, everything is ready balanced.. the CoG is bang on in standard form so all you have to worry about is making sure the control surfaces are where they should be then bang the throttle open. With cheaper models or those you have to put together.. CoG is of great importance and I'm glad I checked the Bixler before flying it. It would have been very tail heavy had I not! :-O
An old battery installed for the first flight and my timer set for 9mins30. The 'manual' gives a flight duration of between 15 and 30mins as standard but this battery had already been used and I wanted to cover my back! :lol: Control surfaces checked.. timer started.. throttle opened to around 90+% and off she went.. nice and straight :rock: Before I knew it, the Bixler was as high as I'd ever taken the ASW (as high as I'd ever been able to get it!) and that on, by then, a reduced throttle. A cautious couple of ccts to get the feel of it and nothing untoward found at all. It may have been ever so slightly tail heavy (despite my checks) but not by a great deal.
It soars like a dream.. much better than the ASW and I knew in short order that 9mins was going to be easy-peasy despite the battery having some life out of it before takeoff. I didn't bother trying to re-trim.. it didn't seem to need it but descents need to be thought out as even with throttle off.. the Bixlers wings generate so much lift, it's happy to stay up :lol: Tried a couple of fast runs and the little tinker goes like a good'un. Top end is tested (as standard) at some 69mph although I didn't take it quite that fast.
Off went the beeper so I took it downwind. As mentioned above.. it took a couple of runs to get it low enough to where I wanted it to be.. it just likes to fly.. but I got it there for a nice controlled landing. Windspeed at ground level going between 0 and 5mph.

Flight 2.
Out with the old battery and in with the new one. This time, I shoved it slightly further fwd. Control checks done.. motor checked.. timer set for 15m30s and off she went.. again, straight and level. I spent the next 15mins pretty much as I'd done the first 9.. putting the model into various situations and seeing what's needed to maintain control. I've never had 15mins out of anything before other than the Champ in light winds and I did check a couple of times (while at a good height) to see if the timer was still running :lol: Eventually, the beeps came and I did a couple of ccts to lose alt before bringing it in for another lovely belly landing.

In Summary..
HK models seem to be a bit hit and miss so you have to expect things to be different from the likes of Parkzone/Hobbyzone. The price you pay reflects this though so don't be too disappointed. I've never fitted/programmed a new ESC before neither have I soldered gold bullet connectors or deans connectors or heatshrink both.. something I had to do with this. However, having done this once and found out how easy it is to do, I've a great deal more satisfaction with the 'build' than had I not done so.
The Bixler flies very well indeed.. even with the piddly little prop you get as standard (many recommend changing this from the outset). It doesn't feel like there's enough wash coming off the prop but there is and then some. The model goes like something off a shovel when you want it to but will soar with consumate ease should that be what you feel like doing. I've not pushed it at all yet. There's a whole lot of aileron deflection as standard which should mean the model will do aero's with ease. Likewise with the elevator. You only need small inputs to get a very satisfactory result.
Flight times.. well.. having charged the first battery (noting it wasn't fully charged).. 9.5mins of flight time saw it charged in 37m04s so there was still plenty left. 6mins with a warbird has the same battery charged in the 50-55min mark. The second, newer and fully charged battery charged in 36m36s for 15.5mins of flight time so there again.. a good safety margin ;) One can only imagine how long one would stay up in the right conditions.
All in all.. I'm more than impressed and can't wait to take it out again ;)

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That's an interesting looking contraction :thumbsup:

Nice one :)


Does it get ITV3? *-)
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Hi Dave, that's a neat looking plane, that float kit for my Cessna looks perfect..if I had decent water I would be tempted. btw over your place Wednesday looked for you and any low flying aircraft but didn't see you, to be on the safe side we stayed high :lol:
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

ITV3 is a possibility mate :lol:

Rgr that Tony.. missed you on Wed, probably because there were still too many trolls roaming the countryside :|

You'd love the Bixler mate.. it's the nearest thing I have to being all things to all men. It's dead easy to fly and you could rob the rxer out of the Cessna ;) The 'build' part I found a bit stressful though in reality, it was my first time doing lots of things I did and I'd find the same very easy now. It wasn't difficult anyway.. just me being idle :lol: I didn't mention cost but it's around $62 plus postage for the model from the UK warehouse but you have to add the ESC, heatshrink and connectors to that bill (don't tell the missus) :worried: HK owed me $5.16 so all in all, I paid £40.66 inc postage (but not including the ESC and other bits). You don't need a runway.. just grass in whatever length you can find as it's hand launch/belly land. The 'standard' battery is the same size as the ones for the Wildcat/SCub and P51D so I didn't need to buy one. I have an IMAX B6AC charger already so I can charge whatever batteries I have in whatever size.. I don't include the Champs little batteries though :lol:

Thought I heard you fly over earlier as it happens mate but I couldn't tell which direction the sound was going.. comes from being mutton in one lugole! :lol:

BTW.. I'd not even consider those floats without a goodly deal of time taking off and landing with the main gear first. Nice to know they're available though :rock:
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Thats a beauty of a plane Dave. Really nice looker Mr Booker. :lol:

Glad she flys nice. Just the ideal sort of plane for a camera. :)

That prop design caught me out the first time I flew (On my Hawk) as it pushes the nose down slightly upon launch.

Quite daunting for me at the time. :-O

Looking forward hearing the progress on this one and also seeing some air video!

Your hanger is getting rather full now Dave. :tunes:
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:( Hello Mate :hello:

Yes.. I watched a few 'test' vids on the Hawk and Hawk Sky a while back and that phenomena was picked up by one tester :-O I was nervous enough at first launch and fortunately.. I'd forgotten this might happen :lol: The Bixler (aka Sky Walker v1) doesn't do this mind you.. it's more like the Champ in that you open the gas and it'll climb. Nice to know ;) It's currently trimmed 'neutral' for say 50% throttle and flies pretty much hands free (well.. level) at that setting. Open the gas and up she goes.. cut the gas and there's a slow but controllable drop. I can make this rather more aggressive by moving the battery progressively fwd ;)

Making a camera platform will be a doddle. Can't afford a camera yet but I've enough foam loafing to make the camera platform now.. something I plan to do in the next day or so :)

I've managed to get 6 batteries through it (bad weather today precluded anymore) and so far.. I love it. It's in one piece still too which is a bonus :lol: Am working on aero's at the mo which I have to admit have not been pretty up to now :lol: Been practising with the Grob in FSX so am hopeful of better things next time out ;)

Hangar space.. well, I'm already out of that. The ASW28 is upstairs in the spare room :lol: Next thing on my list is an EDF but not yet a while.. I want the DX6i first ;) I've started 'collecting' already. HobbyKing had a nice 6ch Orange DSM2 rxer on special over the weekend and I've got one coming. They were limited to one per member otherwise I'd have bought more :( I start work next Monday so my flying will be seriously curtailed but the bonus is I'll be able to afford 'things' :worried: ;) One will be a different bike! :-O
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Yet another thing to add to the PFC's.. prop securing nut! :-O

Had a nasty couple of seconds this morning. Launched the Bix for flight 9 and all seemed well for a second or so.. literally. I gave it loads of throttle and I could see the prop spinning but it wasn't gaining height. The breeze pushed it right wing over where upon it unceremoniously 'went in' :( Very low speed (it was basically my launch throw) and zero damage. All control surfaces working fine.. span the throttle up and I could hear it didn't sound quite right. Also.. I could see the motor running faster than the prop! The prop spinner/securing nut had worked loose but was still on the shaft. Fortunately, I always keep a little Swiss Army knife about my person (it's only a couple of inches long officer) for opening stuff and was able to secure the spinner. ;) Thinking back.. this had started to happen yesterday and I'd presumed it was the wind/low batt!

After.. a nice couple of batteries on a very lovely morning. Gentle intermittent breeze at GL but strong enough at a couple of hundred feet + to be able to soar throttle off. Did a few loops, took it inverted and continued practising aileron rolls. It does Immelmans very nicely ;)

Won't forget to check the spinner nut in future :cpu:

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Can't help smiling at how much this R/C flying caper resembles motorcycling in the 1950s and early 60s, when Trumpy and Beeza owners found it wise to check every 50 miles or so, for anything that was about to come completely unscrewed and fall off :lol: :wasntme:

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

I think the boy's at Hinckley finally learned from that Mike.. 2 out of 4 bolts I tried to undo on my last bike, a Triumph 955i Daytona, snapped off. They went from one extreme to the other! 8) I've had better fortune with my 675 Daytona but I'm still mighty cautious! :worried:

The saga with screws coming loose continued with the Bixler. I was sitting looking at it on my desk yesterday after coming back from yesterdays flight while the batteries were recharging and noticed the securing nut for the elevator pushrod stopper had gone! :-O Fortunately, the way the pushrod routes means there's always pressure on the stopper keeping it in place on the control horn so I didn't lose elevator authority! I don't have any nuts that small so I've had to order new pushrod stoppers which are scheduled to arrive next week.. after I've started work :( In the meantime, I've made a small washer and secured the stopper in place by forcing a piece of biro refil over the thread. It'll probably work better than the nut :lol:

No flying today anyway. The winds are far too high and it looks like it's going to pee down at any moment. Forecast for the next few days is no better so I may have flown my last flight for some time :(
EDIT: As I finished typing.. the skies have opened!

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